With wealth inequality and billionaire control over American society growing ever more obscene, it’s well past time to implement a maximum wage limit.

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    12 hours ago

    I don’t think you’re helping the cause. A perfect solution is not the goal, and a good idea that fails to address the targeted problem is still a good idea.

    You can at the same time think:

    • people shouldn’t be allowed to have a salary of 1 million
    • that the ultra rich aren’t ultra rich because of their salary
    • believe that we should tax ultra-high income individuals highly
    • believe that we should tax ultra-wealthy individuals highly

    Don’t be a bad progressive by discouraging progress. “Tax wealth not work” is a great slogan to unify the working class. We should also probably tax ultra-high income individuals as well.

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      6 hours ago

      The ultra rich own assets. Their wealth does not come from monopoly money from a paycheck. So you can’t tax them unless you go after unrealized gains.

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        2 hours ago

        You absolutely can tax assets. Idk what your point is here, are you anti-taxing the rich? Or are you hyper fixating on the fact that I’m also pro-taxing ultra high income earners more? I don’t get your comment.

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            18 minutes ago

            Okay, cool, that’s not the question. Are you for taxing the ultra wealthy based on their wealth or against? Are you saying you’re against this specific form of wealth tax and because you believe that’s the only form of wealth tax you’re against the whole concept? What’s your fundamental position and point, because I’m not proposing a bill here, I’m taking to strangers on the Internet.

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      11 hours ago

      The issue is that this is literally not a problem. It’s like deciding that the best course of action when you’re starving in the woods is to hunt and eat Bigfoot instead of foraging for food. It’s a waste of time and resources at best, and a distraction from real solutions at worse. Nobody in the history of the world has become ultra wealthy through high salary.

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        2 hours ago

        Idk if you know this but governments are composed of a lot of people. We can fix multiple issues with multiple solutions. Right now the top 0.01% have absolutely too much money. The top 0.1% also don’t get taxed enough. The top 1% also don’t get taxed enough. The top 10% likely could handle more taxing as well depending on what country we’re talking about.

        The reality is there are hundreds of problems modern governments need to solve, most of which require revenue, so getting more revenue from the people who own a ton and people who make a ton is good.

        I don’t understand why we have to pick one solution when we definitely can handle talking about (especially casually on the Internet) multiple solutions, those solutions are good, and we agree on the ranking of importance (wealth tax first, anything that goes after the top 1%, and then income taxes, anything that goes after the top 10%). Like, I don’t think it’s that hard.

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      11 hours ago

      He is right though. Those rich guys won’t have an income at all, they just live on loans., get driven around in cars owned by the company, live in houses owned by the company etc, etc etc.

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        2 hours ago

        I’m literally agreeing with that statement. The ultra wealthy make all their money from their wealthy. Yes. Can we all agree that that’s what’s happening? Yes? Good.

        Now ALSO can we agree it’s sane for someone to suggest taxing ultra high income earners? Like in 2012, just reading off the wiki here, the median cash compensation for a US CEO was 5.3 million. That’s cash. That’s about as much money as I want the limit to be on anyone in the world in terms of wealth and these fuckers are getting paid that a year. Can we agree we should tax cash incomes over oh idk 1 million dollars at something like 90%?

        Like guys come on, this isn’t hard. Don’t just knee jerk react to the topic, read what is being written. Yes, tax wealth. That’s the most important thing every government can do. Yes, I’m saying that because I know wealth begets wealth and it cascades, the wealthy are wealthy because of their wealth (no shit). ALSO, yes we should tax ultra-high income earners. If you get paid enough money to retire in two years of normal full time work you should be taxed accordingly (with something like Germany’s tax law that let’s you spread it out over X years so if it was a one time thing you get taxed normally but if it’s an every year salary it gets taxed correctly).