• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    8 hours ago

    It’s hard to rig an entire country, but it gets a lot easier when you really only have to rig 7 states. Then it gets even easier when all you have to do is program the voting machines to switch the votes in a single race. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of ballots with a straight Democratic ticket, but with Trump at the top.

    Do you know a single person that voted that way? Have you ever heard of a specific person who did? Has the media ever trotted out a single person, anywhere in the country, that voted that way? I’ve never heard of a single example, and yet within minutes of the race going to Trump, the Dems were proclaiming that he’d won “fair & square,” before the dust had even settled to start looking at an investigation.

    They just conceded the election security of the race from the outset, as if they’d decided in advance that they knew they’d lose by cheating, and they didn’t know how to stop it, so they planned in advance to pretend it didn’t happen, rather than explain their spectacular dereliction to the nation.

    That race was the worst example of election fraud in American history, and it was done in the wide open, and the Dems did absolutely nothing to stop it or investigate it. This was the one race that Donald Trump absolutely had to win to stay out of prison. He has cheated at literally EVERYTHING in his entire life. Now we are supposed to believe that the one race where his life literally depends on winning, is the one, single instance in his entire life where he decided to play totally by the rules, and NOT cheat.

    Please, others may be that stupid, but I’m not.

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      8 hours ago

      Do you know a single person that voted that way? Have you ever heard of a specific person who did?

      You likely don’t live in a conservative or even liberal area. The demographics of the last election might also be throwing people, as a lot of people you wouldn’t expect had their hate and fear ramped up and didn’t pay much attention past “Trump is gonna hurt people you don’t like” so we had a lot of young people, people of color and even goddamn immigrants voting for Trump.

      Have you not seen the vast neighborhoods of Trump yard signs and stickers? I know you and others want to believe that the election was handedly stolen but it was mostly just manipulated via social engineering on larger scales. Easier to do, and pans out in the exit polling and the large number of Americans who straight up say they didn’t really care who won and stuck to Trump because they saw Harris as more Biden.

      The reality is at once more depressing and more disappointing, so I get why it’s easier to believe that nobody actually supports Trump. And honestly I don’t think people do, it’s just that the people who matter most in electoral politics stopped caring.

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        7 hours ago

        First of all, I live in Florida, sooo Conservative region? Yeah.

        Trump/Putin/Musk - two of the worst foreign Psychopathic Oligarchs in the world, with infinite access to money and the best and most experienced computer programmers and hackers on the planet, with no loyalty or patriotism towards the United States, teamed up with an American Psychopathic Oligarch wannabe, who also has no loyalty, all viewing America as a big, fat, lazy RICH target to be ruthlessly and mercilessly exploited.

        All they had to do was swap the votes for one race, in 7 states. That kind of cheating would be difficult for individual Congressional or Senate races, but not for the presidential race. All that was need was access to the voting machines, and Putin’s hackers have no doubt been working on that for years.

        We all saw it happen. Both Trump and Musk had multiple meetings with Putin, by phone and in person, during the Biden administration, and they didn’t try to hide it. It was all reported widely in the media.

        And now EVERYTHING that was promised in P2025 is happening, and STILL people want to pretend that it was a fair election.

        They told us they were going to steal the election, they did everything they said, the results are exactly what they said they would be, and yet, somehow there are people who still believe that MAGA won fairly.

        WTF is WRONG with everybody?

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          3 hours ago

          I’m not saying they won “fairly” because there is no such thing. I am saying that if we shift the blame for this conservative sweep that is not just isolated the US, on election rigging and not a massive problem with our society, our communication and our social systems, we are going to fucking lose harder next time. It’s denial. It’s the same as pretending nazis were inhuman monsters and not regular people like any of us.

          It’s dangerous.

          It’s as dangerous as fucking binary thinking where we can’t accept that there is nuance. The left is as bad as the right in this. If someone says “There may be complications” that doesn’t mean “DUR DEE DUR TRUMP DID NOTHING WRONG.”

          There are shades of grey in the world. The right doesn’t understand this, but if you CAN understand this, you are better than them, you are smarter than them. Otherwise you’re just another vulnerable mind in a world that now preys on vulnerable minds.

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            2 hours ago

            THEY WON BY CHEATING! If we don’t address that single issue, they will do it worse next time, and he is going to win in 2028 with 98% of the “vote,” and use that to justify ignoring the Constitutional prohibition of a third term.

            You can’t reasonably expect to win against a election fraud scheme that has already succeeded once, and is in the process of getting even more streamlined.

            You can keep trying to find the people who refused to vote in the most attended election in history, but it will never be enough to outpace vote switching, it only gives them more votes to switch.