Since Trump’s election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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      You know how many people have loaded guns in their house. How many people that have a rifle leaning up against the wall by their door or a loaded handgun underneath their pillow.

      This is an epidemic of death, but sure you are “safe”. That is why almost everyone knows someone who has died needlessly from gun violence.

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          I totally agree you should be safe with a safe, but that is not what is happening soo?

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            So, people should be more responsible with their firearms. Like the user you replied to is.

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              It is the number one killer of children now. Clearly your best thoughts and wishes aren’t working. Over a million Americans are dead in the last twenty years and all you can say is be safe?

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                And what’s your solution?

                Door-to-door gun confiscation? That’s not a policy, it’s a declaration of war. Do you wanna be the one going around to every redneck’s house saying, “Hi, I’m from the government and I’m here to take your guns away?” And if you start a war, who do you think is gonna win: the side with guns or the side without?

                Banning gun sales? Too late, they’re already too widespread. The only thing that does is lock in the current situation, where the right has guns and the left (mostly) doesn’t.

                If I’m stuck in an elevator with a Nazi, best case I have a gun and he doesn’t. Next is neither of us have guns. Next is we both have guns. And worst is he has a gun and I don’t. That’s where we’re at right now. If a right-winger with 5 guns can’t buy a 6th, it doesn’t matter, but if a leftist with zero guns can’t buy one it does.

                Of course, both of those options go directly against the constitution and would be impossible to implement without an impossible supermajority or stacking the Court. And if you violate procedure you delegitimize the government, which is kind of important if you’re planning to fight a civil war.

                So what’s left? Ineffectual, half-assed solutions that accomplish nothing other than pissing people off and make them panic-buy more guns.

                Go ahead, walk me through what you want and how you’d go about it. I’m all ears.

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                  There are tons of solutions to this problem, but your learned helplessness has paralyzed you. You have already decided in your own head there is no solution. This is resignation and defeat. More Americans will die this day and everyday we don’t fix this.

                  You know another widespread problem? Drugs. I guess confiscation won’t work, I guess arresting dealers won’t help, and I guess harm reduction won’t work. The difference is we have actually tried to address this problem and if people would try to understand what is going on we could be far more effective.

                  I am not going to waste my time giving you ideas on how to solve this because no other country has this problem. Trust me, I have came up with tons of creative ideas but it is waste of time talking with people who have already given up.

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                    There are tons of solutions to this problem

                    Name some. You’re great at saying there’s tons of solutions but you get an “F” for providing one.

                    I am not going to waste my time giving you ideas on how to solve this because no other country has this problem.

                    Oh wait, there it is… you have no solutions.