640x360. They claim it’s 480p. Maybe oy half-interlaces? Hah
“Doorbell with a subscription” is something so utterly stupid, an absolute misdevelopment.
The fuck does it even need a subscription for, anyway? Is it not hosting the videos locally? Fuck that.
Local hosting for a security camera is a rather terrible idea, because it can be defeated by stealing or breaking the camera.
The camera isn’t storing anything.
Oh, I guess the micro sd card slot under the batteries of the doorbell camera is non-functional then, and it saves the videos into your ass, where you pulled that claim from?
Yes. Yes it does store them to the camera.
First of all, I was just speaking generally about security cameras, not specifically a ring, when responding to your comment about local storage being stupid for a security camera.
Secondly not all Ring doorbells use an SD card slot or even have batteries. They can be wired directly to the home and save the data to another external device.
Third and pedantically: An SD card is not the camera. It’s an SD card. 😌
The fuck does it even need a subscription for, anyway? Is it not hosting the videos locally? Fuck that.
“It” being a “Doorbell with a subscription”, from the message you directly replied to. In a thread about a video doorbell from Aldi.
Local hosting for a security camera is a rather terrible idea, because it can be defeated by stealing or breaking the camera.
This is what I replied to with concern for storing security camera data locally. You didnt say this camera or Ring cameras, so your comment seems pretty fucking stupid and generic changing the subject to be about local storage for all security cameras.
Any time someone says an ultra cheap monitoring device is subscription free I just picture an odd man running a curio shop telling me his wares don’t cost money
The actual hardware cost of these devices is actually minimal. Basically any wifi capable microcontroller, a camera and depending on implementation some storage (or a micro sd-card holder). So that price is only cheap in comparison to existing products.
For reference, said microcontroller with basic camera can be had for like 3$ or something.
Retail pricing dictates a $3 component cost is $12. And that $3 would have to include packaging and assembly costs. And the plastic case and button. £17 is tough to hit with all that, especially if there is an SD card included or any software development to ensure any kind of security.
…and do they sell data, including video, to law enforcement and insurance?
Sincerely, A person who recently was in a fender bender and was not surprised at all when Progressive shared “incident footage” from a Ring camera across the street at a location completely unrelated to the fender bender
(They ARE selling your data, folks. NEVER trust big tech to act in your best interest)
It’s a rebranded Tuya device, and they don’t sell your data to any law enforcement or insurance.
They do however comply with Chinese laws and all your data is readily available for the Chinese government.
That hardly seems like a relevant concern to any US or other international buyers though
All your data from this device being stored on servers in China that are accessible to the Chinese government isn’t a relevant concern?
What are they gonna do? Send the Chinese police to break down my door and ship me to El Salvador? At least china is less likely to just give that info to the people who can actually commit violence against me.
Personally I don’t care which state actor it is, I don’t want any of them to have easy access to my data.
If they want it, they should work for it.
From the listing:
Answer your door from anywhere in the world with this remote viewing Video Doorbell.
So I assume you’re not expected to self-host this. Which means they have to run and maintain servers. And $16/person ain’t covering the cost of this device + servers indefinitely.
you can make very cheap to maintain peer to peer solutions
you can use a STUN server to discover your public IP and use a method called UDP hole punching to open a port others can connect to. STUN servers are very cheap to run: they don’t actually handle the data; just provide a kind of handshake service in the middle for coordinating
this is often used for peer to peer video chat etc
I’m sure you can. Do you think that’s what they expect their users to do? Or that it’s something they’re going to facilitate?
