• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    No, not “next to,” at this point China has surpassed the US and Europe in manufacturing in all but a few specialized fields.

    Secondly, saying that NATO can’t field war against Russia doesn’t mean that NATO can’t try, or that Russia would single-handedly destroy all of NATO. Russia would win like Vietnam won against the US, by NATO failing to accomplish their goals without nuclear war.

    If it was China and Russia against NATO, it would similarly be devastating for all involved, but NATO wouldn’t succeed in crushing Russia and China without nuclear war.

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      4 hours ago

      No, not “next to,” at this point China has surpassed the US and Europe in manufacturing in all but a few specialized fields.

      few specialized fields like war tech and industry which is what we are talking about.

      Secondly, saying that NATO can’t field war against Russia doesn’t mean that NATO can’t try, or that Russia would single-handedly destroy all of NATO. Russia would win like Vietnam won against the US, by NATO failing to accomplish their goals without nuclear war.

      Vietnam war was 60 years ago and nukes are older than that. War has evolved, USA wouldn’t need a single nuke to destroy russia they are already doing it with propaganda and the leverage they have on markets.

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        27 minutes ago

        No, China is surpassing the US in industrial output and tech. China’s 6th gen fighters are further along than the US’s F-47, and China has far more industrial capacity. The tech is close enough that it won’t make more than a marginal difference, but the industrial output absolutely will.

        The US is not destroying Russia, sanctions have just pushed Russia closer to BRICS. The largest social instability, I would say, is an increasing desire to return to socialism among the populace.