• expatriado@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    the cracks on maga are widening, Boebert also showing some distance, two of the most coocoo nonetheless

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        12 days ago

        How reductive of you.

        These congressional representatives made the active choice to pull away from from MAGA and make decisions that benefited their constituents.

        Leadership did not appreciate that, which is to be expected. Republican establishment has generally reacted poorly when party members don’t toe the line. The only exceptions are long standing members or those in difficult districts to hold. These representatives are in Republican dominant districts, so they aren’t expected to need to compromise to retain the seat.

        I don’t think them being women has much of anything to with it.

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          11 days ago

          What made them pull away from MAGA? Would it happen to be issues that impact women more than men? Everything becomes a loyalty test to authoritarians, it just happens to start with the fringe groups. The minorities within their own ranks. Women happen to be just that.

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            11 days ago

            Nice job moving your goal posts.

            You did not claim they “pulled away” from MAGA. You claimed they were “pushed out” and implied this was because they were women.

            One gives them agency the other reduces them down to their biological sex.

            I do hope they made the choice to pull away realizing how bad these policies are for women.

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              11 days ago

              You did not claim they “pulled away” from MAGA. You claimed they were “pushed out”

              Both things are happening. I’m not moving any goal posts, you’re just trying to catch me on something I said in a comment because you’re stuck on semantics and needing to be right. But I’m not arguing against what you’re saying. I also hope more pull away. I hope as many people as possible abandon MAGA.

              I’m trying to say there’s part of the MAGA base actively pushing women out. People talking about abolishing women’s suffrage, larping as trad-wives and generally doing everything they can to treat women like objects and not people. These things push women away.

              Other conservative women see these things and also willingly pull away from MAGA. Both things can happen. Some people in the maga movement absolutely are reducing women to just their biological sex. But don’t get mad at me for it, I’m just trying to talk about it.

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                11 days ago

                Both things are happening

                Once again that’s not what you said. Your initial comment implied that it was solely due to their sex.

                Truthfully now that you’ve fleshed it out I have no disagreement but your original comment did not represent this position

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                  11 days ago

                  Objectively, facts are subjectively interpreted.

                  Also they ain’t no men MAGAts making a fuss about Epstein in front of the cameras. Where’s your reduction now?

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                    11 days ago

                    My dude what are you talking about?

                    My point was Boebert and Greene were being pushed out due to their position not their sex.

                    Obviously the ones toeing the party line aren’t being pushed out. Either way fuck those guys, but that’s not what we were discussing