Gosh, stop trying so hard to make me not want play your game, I can only take so much!
The last “serious about anticheat” game was hacked on release day. On Windows. With kernel-level AC.
Fuck off with your lies.
If I need spyware to ensure I’m playing a game right, that’s a game I don’t need.
I hear hackers run rampant in Rust.
Are they trying to say Valve isn’t serious about anti-cheat?
This is the funny part: they run rampant on official servers. The community hosted ones with independent admins and moderators have much cleaner playing fields lol, and they can turn off the kernel level EAC
15 years ago, any developer who wanted to install low-level malware on your system would have been rightfully laughed out of the room.
It really shows how tech illiterate the modern user is.
I mean if you run on an operating system, you’re not really serious about anti cheat. You should require all of your players to buy your own hardware that is sealed in a titanium box. They should have to give a blood sample before each session, and they should have to be completely surrounded by webcams the entire time. Better yet, have them report to their nearest prison’s solitary confinement wing for a 100% monitored play session.
Let’s get actually serious about anti cheat.
If the game Rust is what is keeping you away from being on Linux it might be best you never go to Linux. Just save us all the future headache, thanks.
If you can’t play a specific game on linux due to anti-cheat and you still have to encounter cheaters on windows - is this a linux problem somehow?
Ok, I wasn’t gonna play that anyway, I prefer games that don’t incentivize cheating.
Since rust, the game, was launched one year after rust, the language, can we get the rust foundation to sue them for shits and giggles?
When we stopped support for Linux, we saw more cheat users exploiting Linux, than actual legitimate users. — reddit
That’s curious phrasing. Did he expect legitimate users to stick around after support was taken away? Or does he mean that there were more cheaters than legit users before support was dropped?
When we stopped supporting Linux, users made up less than .01% of the total player base, even if that number has doubled, or tripled, it’s not worth it. — reddit
When we discontinued linux support in 2019, — blog
The Steam Deck was released three years later, and has now been around for nearly four years. The portion of gamers using Linux has grown considerably more than he imagines above, and continues to grow.
Enabling proton support would mean we’re asking the EAC team to provide support for a whole other platform, which we fear would reduce their ability to support Windows — blog
That is a false dichotomy. Rather than assuming, he should probably ask the Easy Anti-Cheat folks what would happen if more support was needed for Linux. I would expect their response to increased demand to be hiring qualified staff, not diverting existing staff to tasks for which they are unqualified. This is how businesses grow.
For now, we’re still weighing up the risks and will continue to explore options with EAC. Don’t expect to see Proton support in the near future, but we hope to have it enabled someday. — blog
I think that’s the most sensible thing he has written on the topic.
EAC supports Proton, the devs only need to enable it. And if they think something is lacking compared to Windows, I’m sure they could get Valve to work with EAC on improving those aspects.
I know you don’t need to hear this but just for the record, ARC Raiders just launched with EAC and works perfectly in Proton. This dude is either lying or ignorant, and I’m not sure which is worse.
Brawlhalla has been running fine with EAC for years too
He’s a lying sack of potatoes. I literally called it out on here when I read his gaslighting Reddit post. EA did the exact same thing with Apex Legends, of which my producer was a heavy Apex player on Steam.
The main problem for developers isn’t that it’s hard to implement. It’s the fact that EAC runs in userspace on Linux and is pretty trivial to bypass.
With that said, I want Linux to be THE gaming platform. Problem is that server side anti-cheat is not as widespread in gaming as it should be.
ARC Raiders definitely has some server side checks. On launch day I was selling items too fast and got a pop up that I violated some constraint and that I was being sent back to the lobby with my inventory in the last good state.
That should honestly just be the norm.
It’s Platinum rated on ProtonDB since before the actual launch. https://www.protondb.com/app/1808500
By the way, even in 2019 having only 0.01% Linux players in a game that officially supports Linux feels abysmally bad. I’d wager it had Linux support on paper only and when you tried playing it would be an awful experience.
Can confirm. Their builds were pretty bad.
… Rust still exists? As in, the murder-hobo-survival game that was early access like, 10-15 years ago?
It’s been polished a lot since then (they update every month), but yeah, it’s still around and it’s fun. Sucks that Alistair has this take tho.
I thought they were talking about the programming language.
It is very different from the Early Access times. At some point they have rebuilt the whole game from ground up. Still is a murder-hobo-survival but is much more fun, nicer looking, better optimized and higher-skill-based game.
That is still absolutely loaded to the gills with cheaters. DNSL has a whole series of videos where he trolls people on the server using cheats. 😂
So much for my Steam Machine plans.
Welp, enjoy your rootkits and privacy violations.
Dude should ask Linux players how they can actually play games with EAC and Battleye if that box is turned on, then they’ll realize that none of the cheaters use Linux (if any at all). Most, if not all of them, use Windows with specialized scripts.
Arc Raiders was just deck verified
I’ll buy it for Linux now.
