Tucker Carlson’s interview with the activist revealed the mainstream right is being flooded by extremism – and it’s now impossible to contain

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    19 hours ago

    Your brand of idealism is that capitalism is unbreakable. That we’ve reached the final stage of history. This is fatalistic and therefore idealism. Go to school kid

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      19 hours ago

      I spelled out that it will collapse, what replaces it is eventually another dominance hierarchy if we escape extinction.

      Sorry bucko, no socialist utopia in any future.

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        19 hours ago

        The dominance hierarchy is one where the proletariat rules over the bourgeoisie. After that we end class altogether. You’re way out of your depth here

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            18 hours ago

            Mate your ignorance is glaring here. There are many socialisms. There’s Marxism-Leninism which warrants a vanguard, there’s anarchism which believes in decentralisation, there’s democratic confederalism which is a fusion of the state and decentralisation. You’re so ignorant it’s not even slapstick.

            This is why you’re not intelligent. You’re wrong, but some dogma is holding you back and i don’t know what it is.

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              18 hours ago

              Any form of socialism is not feasible without human consciousness evolving into some kind of singularity. You’ve already contradicted yourself and betrayed the principles of Marxism by claiming the proletariat would dominate the bourgeois. If socialism is about the worker owning the means of production, there is no bourgeois class, except for the worker. In the real world, all you get is some type of authoritarian state capitalism.

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                18 hours ago

                Any form of socialism is not feasible without human consciousness evolving into some kind of singularity

                Bruh what😂.That’s just not true. The workers only need to be class conscious. That means they need to realise that they’re oppressed and must revolt. That’s all that is necessary. We’ve gotten close many times, but those opportunities have been squandered. Once again, i refer you to the Occupy Wall Street movement which started to put capitalism back into the minds of the working class.

                by claiming the proletariat would dominate the bourgeois. If socialism is about the worker owning the means of production, there is no bourgeois class, except for the worker.

                The bourgeoisie would be in a constant bid to reinstate itself throughout socialism. This fight not only exists within the state’s own borders, but outside of it. This is the main fight. That is what is meant by this. I don’t have quotes on hand, but I can find you specific Marx quotes if you’re adamant about it.

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                  18 hours ago

                  The old theories are obsolete, the modes of production replaced by modes of representation. No matter how much you pray and recite your holy scripture, paradise never comes. Marxist theory is as relevant as phrenology.

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                    18 hours ago

                    Your position has changed many times throughout our discussion, from faulty use of Fisher’s theory, to raving about dominance hierarchies and now you’ve settled on “the theory is outdated”.

                    The theory is not in fact outdated because it’s based on historical materialism which is widely accepted among academics and has proven itself to be true. In fact dialectical materialism was extrapolated to form the basis of the conflict theory which many sociologists use to explain ‘why’ and ‘how’ conflicts develop in society, like between different races, the patriarchy etc.

                    There’s an argument to be made that the economic system that is “socialism” is outdated, but that’s another argument, but every Marxist whether anarchist, Leninist, syndicalist and so on agrees that capitalism will end; everyone’s just arguing about whose type it’s going to be.