Despite the US’s economic success, income inequality remains breathtaking. But this is no glitch – it’s the system

The Chinese did rather well in the age of globalization. In 1990, 943 million people there lived on less than $3 a day measured in 2021 dollars – 83% of the population, according to the World Bank. By 2019, the number was brought down to zero. Unfortunately, the United States was not as successful. More than 4 million Americans – 1.25% of the population – must make ends meet with less than $3 a day, more than three times as many as 35 years ago.

The data is not super consistent with the narrative of the US’s inexorable success. Sure, American productivity has zoomed ahead of that of its European peers. Only a handful of countries manage to produce more stuff per hour of work. And artificial intelligence now promises to put the United States that much further ahead.

This is not to congratulate China for its authoritarian government, for its repression of minorities or for the iron fist it deploys against any form of dissent. But it merits pondering how this undemocratic government could successfully slash its poverty rate when the richest and oldest democracy in the world wouldn’t.

  • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    You want to cite what you’re talking about here?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56194622

    I guess that was 4 years ago, but I remember it as more recently.

    while it was 77.6 in the US

    I don’t live in the USA. I consider the USA a 3rd world country cosplaying as a 1st world one. Healthcare in the USA is one of the most broken and predatory in the world. So it’s not a meaningful comparison IMO.

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        19 hours ago

        I never said China didn’t invest into their national programs. I said their definitions of “poverty” are in question.

        Just to clarify something. People tend to confuse the terms of “absolute poverty” and “poverty”.

        The claim of “completely eliminating absolute poverty” (which is a claim the CCP makes) is almost true. Supposedly the number of people in absolute poverty in China is now 0.7%.

        However, this is often reported as China “eliminating all poverty”, which isn’t true. The World Bank puts people still living in poverty in China at 13% (exact numbers are hard because of the CCPs information control), which is higher than what China self claims. Because China doesn’t use the World Bank’s definition for poverty.

        I’ve been to China and have family from there. Don’t try to make this about some nationalistic nonsense. It would be amazing if people in China had as much access to the things in life everyone deserves, but the CCP isn’t exactly known for being honest.

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          12 hours ago

          I’ve been to China and have family from there

          I’ve also been to China and I also have family from there.

          Taking the train from Nanjing to Wuhan is a fundamentally different experience than driving from Houston to Denver. If you simply refuse to acknowledge the scope of public works and economic development, then dismiss these radical changes by citing the exchange rate between the USD and the Yuan as proof extreme poverty still exists, you’re lying to yourself and to everyone around you.

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            10 hours ago

            If you simply refuse to acknowledge the scope of public works and economic development

            I did acknowledge it.

            then dismiss these radical changes by citing the exchange rate between the USD and the Yuan as proof extreme poverty still exists

            I said not a single word about exchange rates and never once mentioned the USD. Either your strawmaning what I said or you can’t read.

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              7 hours ago

              I said not a single word about exchange rates

              You pointed to article that describes the poverty rate in dollars without asking why a Chinese population would measure poverty with a US currency.

              You also failed to read any of the reasoning behind the Chinese claim of “eliminating poverty”, how improvements to public infrastructure contributed to that analysis, and how the UN Poverty metrics fail to include it in their own analysis.

              You linked to an article with a final paragraph that you didn’t understand or interrogate.