“I know China very well, President Xi is a friend of mine, I know him very well…The first thing they’re going to do is say you are not allowed to play ice hockey anymore. That’s not good. Canada’s not going to like that,” the president added.
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Oh, I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that field hockey was one of the major league sports that can be found playing in any sports bar in America provided it’s in season. That must be the big difference between Americans and Canadians. Thanks for clearing that up!
The point wasn’t that field hockey is a major league sport (though it is a popular recreational sport - my high school had a field hockey team but not an ice hockey team, for example).
The point is that this is a clear dialectal difference between some speakers of American and Canadian English, and so criticizing Trump for this, of all the things you should be criticizing him for, is stupid (and ignorant)!
And my point is that most Americans know of hockey just like most Canadians do, and while there may be more Americans playing field hockey than Canadians, I expect most Americans also refer to ice hockey as hockey, and field hockey as field hockey. Unless they’re an ignoramus with dementia, in which case, here we are.
One can also reference how the promoters of the leagues refer to themselves.
https://www.usahockey.com/
https://www.usafieldhockey.com/
Both the people running ice hockey and field hockey in America recognize that, in general for the country, hockey by itself refers to ice hockey and not field hockey.
Also, while there may be some dialectical differences in this respect between Canadians and Americans, that likely doesn’t apply to someone who grew up in New York City. Moreover, his education until his twenties was gained in New York City, so it’s difficult to say it was some quirk of his education. So how they refer to hockey in some region of America that hasn’t touched ice that wasn’t floating in a drink isn’t really relevant to this discussion.
Unfortunately for you, two groups of people having knowledge about the same thing does not mean that they use the same words to refer to that knowledge (see “aluminum” vs. “aluminium”, or maybe more appropriately, “soccer” vs. “football”). Americans and Canadians both knowing about ice hockey does not mean that they use the same words to refer to the sport, and to assume otherwise is uninformed and wrong. Like, this is Ling 101 levels of basic.
Ah the hubris that comes with unquestioned assumptions based on your own dialect.
My wife cracked up the first time I asked her if she wanted me to “carry her to the store” (meaning “drive her”), which genuinely shocked me, because I had had zero reason up until that moment to think that idiom was unique to my own dialect area, especially when we’re from roughly the same region.
The point is, you’re very clearly, demonstrably wrong about this. Based on a poll of just the four people in my household, three of them would say “ice hockey” while the other says that they would probably just say “hockey”.
One can also realize that not everyone speaks like people paid to have a career in a specific sport. Maybe asking people with literally the most possible bias for one over the other isn’t the best way to go about capturing linguistic diversity.
Based on what? Your ass? Because New Yorkers famously sound just like Canadians and don’t at all have a very famous, particular way of talking…
We already have an excellent data point that this may not in fact be true. That data point? The fact that Trump, who is a New Yorker, educated in New York, as you pointed out, said “ice hockey” in fluent speech instead of saying “hockey”.
Demonstrating that there clearly exist Americans who say “ice hockey” instead of “hockey” is an excellent data point when discussing whether this is a dialect difference between some American and Canadian speakers.
All of your assertions come, like I said, straight from your ass, and are therefore much less relevant to the discussion.
And, of course, the main point, once again, because I think it’s important:
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU CRITICIZING TRUMP FOR SAYING “ICE HOCKEY” INSTEAD OF, Y’KNOW, CRITICIZING HIM FOR THE HORRIBLE SHIT HE’S DOING TO CANADA??
First, when you use someone who obviously has dementia as your reference point for what a group of people do, you are probably wrong unless the groups you’re referring to is people with dementia.
Second, promoters use the terms people are most likely to associate with the products they’re promoting, not what it is or think it should be called. That’s why you’ll hear diamond advertisements use the word diamond and not carbon allotrope, because one of them has no relevance to their customers.
Third, I’m not here to talk about Trump. Ive been saying shitty things about him since before Lemmy existed, and this tidbit is almost completely irrelevant to the issues Canada has with respect to Trump. I’m here to talk about your hot take that is probably relevant to the 2% of Americans (that number is for color and is neither an opinion nor an assertion, and if it is a fact, that is purely coincidental) who naturally assume hockey refers to field hockey or who have declined sufficiently due to dementia that they have difficulty with context when speaking.