“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.

Archive article: https://archive.is/9FsBL#selection-723.0-727.336

  • Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca
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    15 days ago

    I heckin’ HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went “independent” we’d get Venezuela’d immediately!

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      Alberta wouldn’t ever be “independent.” At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.

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    Man these separatist extremists are duuumb

    You NEVER work together with trump because he WILL fuck you over the second you turn your back.

    I mean, fuck these assholes, dump them in jail and all, but their choice to do this with the Cheeto is just so dumb

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    14 days ago

    What’s it going to take for Canada to start you know viewing this as treason from certain people? Cuz it’s absolutely treason.

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      If Canada takes a page out of America’s book then there could be an actual violent insurrection and masked federal agents executing Canadians and they still won’t view it as treason.

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      Yup, needs to be shut down and them charged, and then you’ll see a US temper tantrum, which just proves what they were up to.

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      I live in the treasonous province and I’ll tell you most people in Edmonton at least are real Canadians and not fascists.

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        The fairly luke-warm ‘stay’ petition, rabid ‘leave’ petitions, and generally failing recall attempts, seem to paint a slightly more muddled picture.

        At least BC’s premier is openly using the Treason word for this shit.

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          I wouldn’t call that “Luke warm” at all. It was a massive amount of people in a relatively short window of time.

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            Yeah, I don’t know what he’s talking about. Forever Canadian got over 400k signatures before the rules got changed to make it easier. I signed it while wandering around a festival where they had a booth set up. That signature was not exciting, but it was no-brainer.

            The sepratists have a rabid fan base that will line up around the block to sign, but that’s it. After that they have nothing. They are firmly in the minority with only 20-30% considering it. That tracks with the average for idiots in a population that will vote for anything.

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      Through far-left international coordination, perhaps??

      Reactive-programming, using the same methods, ISN’T strategic-win: it’s just becoming the same underlying-nature, in different “makeup”.

      Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,

      & that takes fundamental, profound, strategic investment, & that isn’t happening.

      So, … kiss most of humankind goodbye, this-century, perhaps even all of it.

      It’ll be finished by next-century, probably, the “armageddon” we manufacture ( for our unconscious-mind to play “god” in ).

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    If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It’s one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It’s a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That’s fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don’t wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.

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      My guess is the actual answer is something like

      “Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we’re not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao.”

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    No one here wants this. It’s an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It’s just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.

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      From your lips to God’s ears, gentle Albertan. I’m out in Ontario and get wildly different takes on how “serious” the Separatist movement is. Some people report is as you say, some say it’s “gaining traction”. Highly suspect sources go further, claiming the idea is popular. Even screening out Post Media, there are journalists reporting it as a “very real threat due to institutional support in the Premier’s office”.

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    Trump and his administration are a dumpster fire. Countries should just cut all contact at this point.

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    What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.

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      Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren’t paying attention, can’t see what they don’t want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.

      On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It’s the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon’s removal of the gold standard, and that’s even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.’ $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We’ll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we’re already in a “cold” civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don’t see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I’m an atheist.)

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    I’d say California should hold a referendum to join Canada in response, but then I discovered California’s economy alone has 4.3 trillion GDP compared to all of Canada’s 2.6 trillion. Amazing that the average Canadian still has better access to healthcare 😅

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      I bet that if California had universal healthcare, the GDP would skyrocket. Healthy people are productive people. Ditto for doing free education, genuine anti-corruption, and…(goes on)

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        What? If the country looks after the population, the population will look after the country? That would never work! You know, except for the various countries where it provably does work…