If you just want the last word without actually trying to actually debate anything, I can give you that. I don’t mind.
But like said, I just genuinely didn’t see any points that actually addressed what I said or were relevant. But if you rephrased or just repeated them in proper context we could get into it, if you want to.
Well the governmemt there war overthrown with israeli and us support. So the syrian people are finally free no? I dont know, it doesnt seem socialist or even better for that matter to me.
I’m neutral on the current Syrian government. Haven’t seen much from them so far tbh. If that was the people’s will then I support the people’s will. Do you mean with the previous overthrow the one that overthrew the Shah?
the overthrow in syria in my view didnt install a democratic or popular socialist, or in fact a democratic popular leader per say. President is a former islamist militia commander. Meanwhile while the state deals with secrarian violence between alawites christians kurds druze, israel has expanded settlements in golan and does now regular strikes even further into syrian territory. framing potential iran or syria as socialist is just marketing, it shows no connection to either of the situations there. thats why i asked. If this is the sort of freedom you are “neutral” on then we disagree.
in syria the popularity cannot even be argued on the same grounds because it wasnt toppled through uprising.
in iran the protests were followed by orders larger pro gvmt anti foreign influence ones. I can give source its on craddle for example. Also notice how the revolution against shah is different, point me to significant backing of it by foreign power. That was grassroots, this one has mossad and cia all over it
So not yet?
If you just want the last word without actually trying to actually debate anything, I can give you that. I don’t mind.
But like said, I just genuinely didn’t see any points that actually addressed what I said or were relevant. But if you rephrased or just repeated them in proper context we could get into it, if you want to.
Ah sorry, i was asking whats wrong with syrian socialism.
What about Syrian socialism? I don’t understand what you mean
Well the governmemt there war overthrown with israeli and us support. So the syrian people are finally free no? I dont know, it doesnt seem socialist or even better for that matter to me.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. That people shouldn’t try to overthrow their current government if that overthrow doesn’t guarantee socialism?
No it just seems to me that you dont support the syrian govenment. Did you even support the previous overthrow?
I’m neutral on the current Syrian government. Haven’t seen much from them so far tbh. If that was the people’s will then I support the people’s will. Do you mean with the previous overthrow the one that overthrew the Shah?
the overthrow in syria in my view didnt install a democratic or popular socialist, or in fact a democratic popular leader per say. President is a former islamist militia commander. Meanwhile while the state deals with secrarian violence between alawites christians kurds druze, israel has expanded settlements in golan and does now regular strikes even further into syrian territory. framing potential iran or syria as socialist is just marketing, it shows no connection to either of the situations there. thats why i asked. If this is the sort of freedom you are “neutral” on then we disagree. in syria the popularity cannot even be argued on the same grounds because it wasnt toppled through uprising.
in iran the protests were followed by orders larger pro gvmt anti foreign influence ones. I can give source its on craddle for example. Also notice how the revolution against shah is different, point me to significant backing of it by foreign power. That was grassroots, this one has mossad and cia all over it