I don’t need to, because my grandfather ran up the beaches of Normandy and fought all the way to the German border, alongside Brits and Americans. But the good Americans, not like you. My country has a proud history of fighting fascists, and we actually participated in both world wars from the beginning unlike you guys who showed up years too late, and then spent the next century bragging about how you won the whole thing. You have no concept of suffering during war. In fact you got a golden ticket after WW2 to tune the global economic system to give you every advantage, so I look forward to the moment of realization when you no longer have the dollar standard and all your TBonds get sold off. You might have to actually pay your debts rather than printing money and spending it all on military hardware to enable your foreign corporate adventures.
Then he’d have told you how much of a bloody mess taking a beach head is with 1930s equipment. Again, nobody in Europe actually wants that noise. That’s why there was no major European intervention in Ukraine. Y’all just let the Ukrainians piss away their best and brightest as cannon fodder while up-selling them on Wundertanken that got stuck in the mud.
You have no concept of suffering during war.
If I didn’t, I’d be significantly more blase about a military engagement in Greenland.
I’ll spot you Trump has no concept, and will presumably fling every member of JSOC into the meat grinder if he thinks it’ll win him a 51st state and a Nobel Prize in Bribing The Right People. But the fact that folks in the EU do seem to have a meaningful contingent of anti-war locals would suggest they aren’t thrilled with the prospect of sending their kids and grandkids to die over an oversized ice cube.
There’s simply no appetite for this shit, which is why Trump (very rightly) believes he can take Greenland without a serious fight. That’s the nature of imperialism. The cost of opposing the empire is astronomically higher than the cost of acquiesce, so people tend to duck their heads until the pain is intolerable. And Greenland isn’t painful enough to fight over.
How do you believe the Axis power will occupy Greenland?
Same way they do it anywhere else. A month of artillery bombardment on every hospital, church, and elementary school with a “Fighting Age Male” in line of sight until everyone in the country is afraid to step outside the house.
Send in the jackboots to take major ports and city centers, then loot the surrounding area of valuables.
Start paying half the surviving population a bounty of bread and cigarettes for every “insurgent” scalp they bring in, and set off a civil war that scars the country for a century.
Then fall back to a Green Zone and use anyone left for target practice with your latest AI powered weapons system.
Write the territory off as “ungovernable” in fifteen years, and have your retired grunts sign a multi-million dollar book/movie deal called “Snowmobile Heroes: Liberation Victory Patrol”
Ok so they plan to kill their former allies, as well as any Greenlanders that don’t want to be occupied, which is all of them.
If you think this is a feasible sane approach, you’re either a troll, or you’re out of your fucking mind. The world will turn to China and trash the US economy instantly.
It’s no more feasible or sane than any of our other adventurist wars. But it’s crazy to think the Europeans are willing to play the role of Punching Bad to our Imperial Iron Fist. If the US is serious about taking Greenland, the Europeans will back out of the way. Because the US is an enormous, horrifying killing machine and Greenland simply isn’t worth that kind of heat.
The world will turn to China and trash the US economy instantly.
European reactionaries will be on the side of the US - just like Canadians were in the last election cycle - and they’ll likely eat some shit for it in the short term. But the US will continue to pump the continent full of white nationalist propaganda. The liberal European leadership will continue to let it happen. And the reactionaries will win in the end when liberals roll over a few years later.
I don’t need to, because my grandfather ran up the beaches of Normandy and fought all the way to the German border, alongside Brits and Americans. But the good Americans, not like you. My country has a proud history of fighting fascists, and we actually participated in both world wars from the beginning unlike you guys who showed up years too late, and then spent the next century bragging about how you won the whole thing. You have no concept of suffering during war. In fact you got a golden ticket after WW2 to tune the global economic system to give you every advantage, so I look forward to the moment of realization when you no longer have the dollar standard and all your TBonds get sold off. You might have to actually pay your debts rather than printing money and spending it all on military hardware to enable your foreign corporate adventures.
Then he’d have told you how much of a bloody mess taking a beach head is with 1930s equipment. Again, nobody in Europe actually wants that noise. That’s why there was no major European intervention in Ukraine. Y’all just let the Ukrainians piss away their best and brightest as cannon fodder while up-selling them on Wundertanken that got stuck in the mud.
If I didn’t, I’d be significantly more blase about a military engagement in Greenland.
I’ll spot you Trump has no concept, and will presumably fling every member of JSOC into the meat grinder if he thinks it’ll win him a 51st state and a Nobel Prize in Bribing The Right People. But the fact that folks in the EU do seem to have a meaningful contingent of anti-war locals would suggest they aren’t thrilled with the prospect of sending their kids and grandkids to die over an oversized ice cube.
There’s simply no appetite for this shit, which is why Trump (very rightly) believes he can take Greenland without a serious fight. That’s the nature of imperialism. The cost of opposing the empire is astronomically higher than the cost of acquiesce, so people tend to duck their heads until the pain is intolerable. And Greenland isn’t painful enough to fight over.
How do you believe the Axis power will occupy Greenland? Tell me a typical plan. How would it roll out?
And how will it happen without lethal force?
And if EU or Canadian troops are killed, or Greenlanders are killed, do you think it will just be brushed under the rug and dismissed?
Same way they do it anywhere else. A month of artillery bombardment on every hospital, church, and elementary school with a “Fighting Age Male” in line of sight until everyone in the country is afraid to step outside the house.
Send in the jackboots to take major ports and city centers, then loot the surrounding area of valuables.
Start paying half the surviving population a bounty of bread and cigarettes for every “insurgent” scalp they bring in, and set off a civil war that scars the country for a century.
Then fall back to a Green Zone and use anyone left for target practice with your latest AI powered weapons system.
Write the territory off as “ungovernable” in fifteen years, and have your retired grunts sign a multi-million dollar book/movie deal called “Snowmobile Heroes: Liberation Victory Patrol”
Ok so they plan to kill their former allies, as well as any Greenlanders that don’t want to be occupied, which is all of them.
If you think this is a feasible sane approach, you’re either a troll, or you’re out of your fucking mind. The world will turn to China and trash the US economy instantly.
That’s been the US modus operandi since Truman.
It’s no more feasible or sane than any of our other adventurist wars. But it’s crazy to think the Europeans are willing to play the role of Punching Bad to our Imperial Iron Fist. If the US is serious about taking Greenland, the Europeans will back out of the way. Because the US is an enormous, horrifying killing machine and Greenland simply isn’t worth that kind of heat.
European reactionaries will be on the side of the US - just like Canadians were in the last election cycle - and they’ll likely eat some shit for it in the short term. But the US will continue to pump the continent full of white nationalist propaganda. The liberal European leadership will continue to let it happen. And the reactionaries will win in the end when liberals roll over a few years later.