One of Donald Trump’s top aides has ramped up the pressure on Denmark by questioning Copenhagen’s claim to Greenland.

Stephen Miller, the US president’s deputy chief of staff for policy, also claimed military intervention would not be needed to take over the Arctic territory because “nobody is going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland”.

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    In quiet, reflective moments, Miller muses on his past.

    “I was happy strangling babies in back alley dumpsters. But Trump found me, and showed me how to hurt so many more people. I will forever be grateful”.

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    Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein.

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    also claimed military intervention would not be needed to take over the Arctic territory because “nobody is going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland”.

    Has this argument ever worked? Every war US has fought, has been against much weaker target (especially Islamic groups), yet the “target” pretty much always fights back. Why would anyone bend over to getting invaded or captured?

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      He’s absolutely correct. There’s not 60,000 people there and a third of those are in one city. Greenland has the least dense population of any country. We’re hardly going to get bogged down fighting natives with hunting rifles. Also, insurgency is rather impossible in a frozen wasteland. At least Simo Häyhä had trees to snipe from.

      Europe isn’t going to cross the Pond and start shit if we take Greenland. They’re barely standing up to the Russian monster in their backyard, they’re hardly going to defend our backyard. We’ll get kicked out of NATO, but that’s a goal of this administration. Win win.

      All of NATO would have to pull together to storm across the Atlantic, and the US would watch that buildup in real time. God only knows what would happen then, but I’d guess a US first strike.

      In any case, the US would seed the Atlantic with every hunter-killer sub we got. Europe wouldn’t be able to sneak a kayak across.

      Pretty fucking bleak situation.

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        Oooor Europe can siege all the US bases in our territory and see if the US people wants to have the soldiers going back home in plastic bags.

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          You have a monster breathing down your neck, in your own backyard, and you Europeans are too cowardly to do anything about it. But you will, somehow, find the gumption to besiege American military bases?

          Some of you people have the geopolitical sophistication of a 6th grader.

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        NATO without the USA has 5x the troops capable of operating in Greenland level cold and 10x the equipment capable of the same. Yes the US would be able to seize parts, but holding them would be far more difficult. It would look something like Viet Nam IMO.

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          Think NATO will cross the Atlantic and do something about it? Serious question. You’re talking capability, and you’re probably right on the question of winter fighting (damned interesting!), but I’m talking will.

          But let’s drop the comparison to Vietnam, or any other American fuck ups. To get into such another quagmire, NATO would have to get troops there in the first place. And again, not like they can hide in Greenland’s vast jungles. Honestly, I don’t know of a fair wartime comparison? Who has invaded a monstrous rock and who has tried to defend it across an ocean? We’re all in new territory, and maybe that’s the scariest thing.

          For all intents and purposes, Greenland in an uninhabited rock, on our side of the world, with strategic minerals and positioning, and NATO has done jack shit to defend their own eastern front. And let’s not forget Putin pushing for all this, and getting his way. We’re taking it and I am scared shitless of what comes next.

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    These are not threats, these statements are prepping to world for the eventuality.

    From a previous comment:

    Global warming makes Greenland prime real estate. As it warms, prospecting and mining become easier, and it will soon guard year-round Artic sea lanes. With enough warming it may become attractive for farming and living space.

    They learned from Hitler’s mistake of not immediately storming the Caucasus oil fields before starting further shit. Guess what we just did? I’ll give you three guesses, but you’re only going to need one.

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      and it will soon guard year-round Artic sea lanes. With enough warming it may become attractive for farming and living space.

      Sure Greenland is going to be prime real estate due to climate change, but people like Miller are going to be long dead by then. And I don’t think this crew in charge of the white house are so altruistic and concerned for the future of America that they want to secure resources for a century or two down the road.

      Besides, we have much bigger concerns if Greenland melts than if we have land to settle.

      It’s far more likely some kind of Russia-connected plot for strategic positioning.

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        Yes, it’s Putin who wants this! But taking Greenland is still in America’s best interest, from a strategic point of view, current world politics and near-term consequences be damned.

        As to the future of America, I’m starting to see the light, starting to see how truly dangerous these people’s long-term vision is. Trump is all simple-minded greed, but Project 2025 and the like is far worse.

        These people truly believe in a Nazi vision of a 3rd Reich. They want to etch their names in history books. They truly think they’re doing what’s right for America, now and in the future. Don’t all dictators?

        My only hope is that, like Hitler, giddy on success, they bite off more than they can chew.