MN state investigators being sidelined by the FBI

  • gustofwind@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Nobody likes a strong federal government when it does stuff like this

    Everyone likes a strong federal government when it competently handles a pandemic, economic crisis, or intelligently arranges for the well being of its citizens

    You can’t magically solve the problem of almost half your country being bigoted supremacists by just reallocating some power

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      8 days ago

      It’s a false dichotomy of having either a strong or a minimal government. You can have both at the same time, strong in some areas, small to no influence in others.

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      8 days ago

      So we just have to take the bad with the good? This woman’s life, and all the lives negatively impacted by the Federal government over the many years is just the price we have to pay for a functioning Federal government (when it functions).

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      People when the government goes after people they don’t like: “fuck yeah man, arrest all these assholes and put them in camps”

      People when the government goes after people they like: “hell no man, this is a bridge too far”

      Come on, man. This is extremely childish.

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        5 days ago

        I mean, yeah? Isn’t that everybody? Do people get excited when governments do things they think are shitty and angry when they do beneficial things?

        • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
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          You’re missing the point. If everybody is like that, then there’s no reason to feel morally superior about whichever side of the fence you happen to lean on, because you have to consider that the other side might be doing the exact same, except their priorities are reversed.

          Democrats weaponize the government to enforce their ideas of right and wrong just as much as Republicans do. You just don’t notice it because it doesn’t FEEL like enough progress is being made, but you enjoy the feeling of terrorizing your enemies just as much as they do.

          The fundamental problem with that is this: whenever THEIR guys are in charge, neither side tends to have too many objections to increasing the power of the government – after all, you could be making so much more progress in so much less time if you just did away with all that annoying red tape (such as the filibuster).

          But what most people fail to consider is that once you do, the precedent you set will become the template for the next administration, and the weapon you build will fall into their enemies’ hands. No party is going to remain in charge forever (because that would be a dictatorship), so the next time you cheer for more radical measures when your side is in control, remember that you’re also cheering for the other guys to do the same to you when they’re back in charge.