Complaining about “kids these days ruining Star Trek” is just sad, Bud. If you can’t engage with people on here without insulting them based on an assumed trait, kindly find another place to talk about Trek.
And, just so we’re clear, I’m old enough that I’ve been watching Trek since before TNG was in production, and my favourite episodes have always been the silly ones.
Remember when Kirk and Spock went to the gangster planet, and Kirk got really into the role?
Remember when Worf, Alexander, and Troi were trapped on the holodeck populated by western archetypes that all had Data’s face and abilities, including the busty saloon madame? Talk about fully functional.
Remember when, in the middle of a war with an existential threat, the crew of DS9 stopped to play baseball against Sisko’s academy bully?
Remember when the Doctor started day dreaming, including improvising an opera about how Tuvok was overtaken by the pon’farr, and the potato shaped aliens using him to spy on the crew thought everything he was imagining was real?
Remember almost every holodeck, Ferengi, mirror universe, or Lawaxana Troi episode? Star Trek can be deep and serious and meaningful, but it can also be very, very silly. And that’s awesome.
It is sad. Kurtzman ruined a franchise that is probably doomed to be discontinued imminently for lack of interest. If you can’t tell the difference between moments of levity in Berman Trek and the tone issue in Kurtzman Trek…
They put up the first episode of Academy for free on youtube 4 days ago and it’s averaged like 2000 views per hour. The episode cost $10 million to make. It’s not sustainable to expend these Kurtzman budgets for the audience it gets economically. It’s not like there’s kids lining up at Walmart to buy Discovery toys. Star Trek: Enterprise was averaging 2.9 million viewers per episode with a MUCH smaller budget when it was cancelled.
Every Kurtzman Trek product has operated at a loss so far, and it’s not like they’re making that up on merch… there’s a rumor out there that Les Moonves signed an insane contract with Kurtzman out of spite for being metooed on his way out where they need to pay a flat $250mil to Kurtzman to STOP making these… doesn’t seem like an insane theory when you have literally $2 billion spent on Star Trek content with a viewership under a million people.
Complaining about “kids these days ruining Star Trek” is just sad, Bud. If you can’t engage with people on here without insulting them based on an assumed trait, kindly find another place to talk about Trek.
And, just so we’re clear, I’m old enough that I’ve been watching Trek since before TNG was in production, and my favourite episodes have always been the silly ones.
Remember when Kirk and Spock went to the gangster planet, and Kirk got really into the role?
Remember when Worf, Alexander, and Troi were trapped on the holodeck populated by western archetypes that all had Data’s face and abilities, including the busty saloon madame? Talk about fully functional.
Remember when, in the middle of a war with an existential threat, the crew of DS9 stopped to play baseball against Sisko’s academy bully?
Remember when the Doctor started day dreaming, including improvising an opera about how Tuvok was overtaken by the pon’farr, and the potato shaped aliens using him to spy on the crew thought everything he was imagining was real?
Remember almost every holodeck, Ferengi, mirror universe, or Lawaxana Troi episode? Star Trek can be deep and serious and meaningful, but it can also be very, very silly. And that’s awesome.
It is sad. Kurtzman ruined a franchise that is probably doomed to be discontinued imminently for lack of interest. If you can’t tell the difference between moments of levity in Berman Trek and the tone issue in Kurtzman Trek…
What is your evidence that Trek is doomed?
Also, if you don’t like the shows currently being produced, is it really that sad?
They put up the first episode of Academy for free on youtube 4 days ago and it’s averaged like 2000 views per hour. The episode cost $10 million to make. It’s not sustainable to expend these Kurtzman budgets for the audience it gets economically. It’s not like there’s kids lining up at Walmart to buy Discovery toys. Star Trek: Enterprise was averaging 2.9 million viewers per episode with a MUCH smaller budget when it was cancelled.
You do understand the differences between modern television making and 25 years ago, correct?
If modern era Trek was really so unsustainable, would they be going into their ninth year of it?
Every Kurtzman Trek product has operated at a loss so far, and it’s not like they’re making that up on merch… there’s a rumor out there that Les Moonves signed an insane contract with Kurtzman out of spite for being metooed on his way out where they need to pay a flat $250mil to Kurtzman to STOP making these… doesn’t seem like an insane theory when you have literally $2 billion spent on Star Trek content with a viewership under a million people.
You’re going to need to back those claims up with some actual evidence beyond whiney youtube conspiracy nonsense