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    2 days ago

    Actshually the question is actually asked by Sanders.

    Of course it’s clearly some kind of rhetorical question.

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        1 day ago

        Just to be sure that we are on the same page:

        • we have op (return2ozma) posting a news article.
        • the title of the post is the title of the article, which is pretty good practice when relaying a news article on social media.
        • the title of the post quotes a question asked by B. Sanders.
        • what you know of op makesyou claim that he asks the question in bad faith.
        • I remark op isn’t the one asking the question.
        • I add that it’s a rhetorical question.

        Now to answer your last comment, what I was getting at with my second point, and which is maybe not that all pertinent in hindsight, is that it’s kind of hard to make out from a rhetorical question alone what the author ‘s stance might actually be exactly. Maybe Sanders thinks that the extent of Musk’s donations might suggest the US not being a true democracy, maybe he thinks that this is in contradiction with an otherwise healthy democracy, maybe he thinks there’s nothing democratic about the current US political system ; or any shade between these. All in all, the conclusion is left to the reader.

        In light of all this, the fact that op could be a bad actor is not very pertinent : it’s not his words, and even if it was, the nature of the question and its effect on the reader is quite open ended and IMO not as manipulative as « bad faith » would imply.

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            20 hours ago

            Yeah whatever… I scrolled through both your and his comments… (some of it - I’d take your word that I missed out the juicy bits, but it would help if you explained in clear language what I should be looking for)

            So yeah, I’m not really sure what you’re on about. Sure, there seems to be some dubious (IMHO) takes here and there from both of you. Then again, I’m sure I could find some of my own comments to be rather dubious when taking them out of context.

            Besides, if I may offer some advice, combining a very adversarial posture, altcaps as a cheap way to pastiche op, and an inability to clearly communicate what your grief with op is in the first place really doesn’t help make your point.

            Now, in the light of what little I’ve seen of your comments, I’m guessing op has been advocating abstaining in your last presidential election due to the ongoing US-supported genocide in Palestine. I understand you are pissed off about that, I fail to see how going on a witch hunt after the fact, badmouthing op on every comment in a post that has nothing to do with that issue is achieving anything. Especially when the post is just some rather mild news article with no commentary from OP himself. Especially when you make it really hard to understand what you are on about.

            This infighting between you non-MAGA Americans, while fascism is sweeping through your country, is quite ridiculous at this point. You’ll have plenty of opportunities to settle the scores if you succeed in getting out of this mess, and in the meanwhile, we all have much bigger problems to worry about than who did what in 2024.

            I’m not really sticking out my neck for op, I frankly don’t care. I’m sticking it out to keep lemmy a place for sane and constructive exchanges and discussions.