• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    9 hours ago

    Sure, what this after they required everyone in North Korea get Dear Leader’s haircut, while also executing anybody who got his haircut?

    Western news sources are not reliable when covering America’s enemies. I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.

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      I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.

      Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.

      So from this I assume you will remain ignorant forever?

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        Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.

        For Americans maybe, that’s why I’ll talk to Chinese who aren’t such a risk when I return to China. I met a Russian who had the same shock upon seeing she was lied to about China and wanted to go to NK, I wouldn’t be surprised if Russians can travel somewhat freely in NK either.

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          I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started. Do I believe her over all the other Russians/Ukrainians/Moldavians I’ve met? Hell no. Propaganda is a helluva drug. I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, don’t get me wrong, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.

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            I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started

            Bizarre. I don’t know any Russians who haven’t commented on the increased propaganda and how expensive everything’s gotten. Apparently there’s more diverse brands in stores now tho lol. Do they at least mention how expensive everything is?

            I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.

            That’s literally my only point here. There’s people who think NK is full of mustache-twirling villains who execute you if you watch a TV show.

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              Nah, mostly she just complains about pretty normal stuff that’s unrelated to that. She’ll be back next week, this time she stayed a bit longer than usual, might’ve felt less like a tourist this time so might have actual complaints. But I doubt it. She’s what the Russians would call a vatnik, I think… despite living outside Russia for over 30 years now.

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          7 hours ago

          For Americans maybe

          I have no idea why you’re so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place

          that’s why I’ll talk to Chinese who aren’t such a risk when I return to China

          I have no idea why you’d believe random Chinese who probably believes the propaganda from the Chinese government even harder than you do

          By the way no comment from you on the fact that North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories? That their country is a prison?

          I met a Russian

          You really are knee deep in it eh?

          Last post from me, you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)

          Picture unrelated

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            7 hours ago

            I have no judgement because I have no reliable data

            I have no idea why you’re so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place

            You understand the difference here right? Not immediately dropping your pants and jerking off while grunting about how bad and evil America’s enemies are isn’t the same as withholding judgement on something you don’t have reliable data on.

            North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories

            I’ve never heard from a North Korean in a country where they risk prison if they don’t tell the right story, but presumably there are North Koreans telling their stories in North Korea, Jilin, and Vladivostok, that we haven’t heard.

            you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)

            Eh, I wouldn’t want to tie myself to a single place.