Experts are warning that the Trump administration’s ongoing crackdown in Minnesota could quickly get out of hand and could even result in a second US civil war.
Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, wrote in a Wednesday column published by the Guardian that she and her colleagues at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) conducted a tabletop exercise in October 2024 that simulated potential outcomes if a US president were to carry out law enforcement operations similar to the ones being conducted by the Trump administration with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers in Minnesota.
“In that exercise, a president carried out a highly unpopular law-enforcement operation in Philadelphia and attempted to federalize the Pennsylvania’s National Guard,” Finkelstein explained. “When the governor resisted and the guard remained loyal to the state, the president deployed active-duty troops, resulting in an armed conflict between state and federal forces.”
the regime offers us two choices:
It’s the same choice, why else do you think they want civil war so badly?
one involves organizing a resistance effort with your neighbors to keep vulnerable members of your community of your safe
the other involves saying “i don’t appreciate being killed” as you’re killed
USians seem to be pathologicaly blind to everything that doesn’t involve them shooting each other, it’s like some kind of curse you’all have. Nobody can even imagine that there is something between politely talking and a civil war. How are you still alive as a country and individually is a great mystery
i’ve been pleading the world around me to stop the shooting for 19 years now. an overt fascist wing is running the country now. we missed the opportunity for polite discussion i’m afraid.
i said in another comment that where we are right now is that 1/3 of the country, the 1/3 in control, fully plans to kill the other 2/3 of the country. 1/3 of the country is working to slow or stop them. a remaining 1/3 doesn’t understand this is happening.
Yeah, that you probably did. So the next logical step is shoot each other, right? Damn, if only I wrote a comment describing this exact thing a while ago, I could just reference it.
Cuz we ending WW2 by talking to Hitler and asking him to stop. Braindead take to think fascists give up power willingly.
We didn’t end it by virtue of some random people running around with their guns. It took coordinated effort of many of organisations and governments. Do you understand what I’m saying and why?
Ok, your saying it takes a large, coordinated effort. Not a bunch of people running around with guns. Was not clear to me, sorry.
And those efforts required guns/shooting each other, undermining your original point
i’ve been reflecting on this for a couple hours trying to gather my thoughts and find where it is i’m failing. so let’s go through what we’ve been through to get here
in all of this, we have continued to get killed. now the only pretext our killers need is that they want to kill us. and so we’re falling into a civil war because we’ve exhausted everything else.
and still, across lemmy i get told to either fight my police directly, or someone like me tells me that fighting the police is not the only option.
the only conclusion i can reach is a lot of people who don’t know what we’re going through feel real confident they know better than me what’s going on
Trolling or stupid? I’ll let you pick which one you are.
You’re suggesting polite talk, to this?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-for-execution-of-democratic-members-of-congress-in-shocking-barrage-of-posts/ar-AA1QPey5
https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/2025/11/trump-death-threat-democrats-military-video-sedition-federal-government/
The people we need to talk to, to negotiate with, just stormed in and took a country and are threatening to take a few more.
You act as if negotiations haven’t been tried and failed.
Trully, the levels of reading comprehension I’ve come to expect. Shoot a gun at your screen, maybe that will help you read, I don’t know
ohh gotcha, trolling, hey good luck with that, have a block on me
So you’d rather assume everyone around you is trolling, than even entertain the possibility that you might be wrong and didn’t actually read correctly what you’re answering to. You can spend 10 seconds to re-read, but you either didn’t do that, or did and still didn’t understand.
It’s not uncommon, but still very depressing to see every time. We should be better. You should be better.