The Trump administration will revoke temporary protected status for thousands of Somali nationals in the United States in the face of White House claims that the diaspora community in Minnesota participated in widespread fraud, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Tuesday.
Noem told Fox News that Somalis with temporary protected status would be required to leave the country by March 17. She argued that conditions in Somalia have improved and added that “allowing Somali nationals to remain temporarily in the United States is contrary to our national interest. We are putting Americans first.”
In a separate social media post, the Department of Homeland Security wrote: “Our message is clear. Go back to your own country, or we’ll send you back ourselves.”
The move would affect thousands of Somalis in the United States, though not the majority of the U.S. Somali community, many of which are already permanent residents or U.S. citizens. Yet the announcement comes as the federal government ramps up its immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota, the state with the largest Somali population in the United States.
Why would you need to force a business to hire the most competent person for a job?
Man it’s like, people are bigoted or something to the point where they had to make laws specifically saying that you have to hire the most competent person, and people still whine about it.
We both know there’s racist people out there, towards blacks and whites and Asians or anyone else. Or people who hate gays. Or people who hate straight people. So if you really believe in meritocracy, where people naturally rise from their own effort and the better people get the jobs, you should be in favor of laws that keep things fair. Then the better people will get hired.
But capitalism is about making a profit above all else, isn’t it?
If you purposely ignore 20-50% of the potential hiring pool regardless of qualifications simply because you’re a bigot, someone else is going to hire them (potentially for less) and simply outcompete you.
So you’re saying that making it so people hire based on how qualified they are rather than, say, race, is actually good for business. Because there are flawed and bigoted people out there, and even though a capitalist business is about making a profit, there’s people out there who would rather screw up the system over petty differences than have business be better and innovate more.
Sure, there probably are people like that, but they deserve to fail and go out of business, don’t you think?
Well the problem with that is that there’s some businesses that wouldn’t fail and go out of business even if there were instances of bigotry in hiring. So that’s why people had to step in.
Like, if you tried to get a job at Starbucks and weren’t hired because you were white, that one store isn’t going to fail, much less the company. And it wouldn’t be fair to hire or not hire people based on your race, right?
So people set up rules so that hiring people based on race is illegal, which works out better for businesses and people overall.
Why would you want a law that forces a business run by bigots or racists to hire you despite hating you for your skin color? Don’t you think they’ll just find other, legal ways to mistreat you or discriminate against you? And if you fail, they’ll feel more righteous about their bigotry, but if you succeed, they’ll resent you for that.
I’d honestly rather just have them tell me upfront if they’re racist, that way I won’t waste my time with them.
The problem with that logic is that you’re assuming you’ll just find another job. What if you lived in a city that was super crazy liberal, and no one was hiring you because you were straight. Unfortunately you still need a job to get by, and you can’t afford to move if you don’t have a job.
But hey, about mistreating you? There’s laws about that, too, all part of the package deal that comes with not hiring you based on race. With strict enough penalties companies would rather their employees not be bigots because they don’t want to go to court.
A side effect of all this is that bigotry dies in people’s hearts when they are exposed to the people they are bigoted against. If there was someone who hated Americans, but then got to actually meet and talk to one and work with one, they would realize Americans aren’t all bad and can be pretty nice and chill. So making sure people don’t hire based on race helps eliminate racism and keeps things fair for everyone, which helps business innovate by giving people a chance.
Oh, is that so? Well, at least you seem to understand that bigotry can cut both ways. That’s more than most people here seem to be willing to acknowledge.
That said, if I was faced with that sort of situation, I would to whatever I can to find a way to move somewhere else where I’m welcome.
You can mistreat people in subtle ways that are difficult to sue over or prove in court. Like, giving people bad hours, or passing them over for promotions.
Yes, I do believe this CAN work, but it generally requires at least a shred of willingness to participate. You cannot simply force someone into accepting someone they don’t like. That sounds sounds a hell of a lot like raping your way into a relationship, don’t you think?