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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    So if there’s certain material which, whenever a person encounters it, changes their mind, how do you account for that?

    Wouldn’t the simplest explanation for that be that this material contains compelling arguments people aren’t seeing outside that material?

    • Zoidsberg@lemmy.caOP
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      1 year ago

      The History Channel makes compelling arguments for how extra-terrestrials built the pyramids. Compelling doesn’t always equal true.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        In this case I’m using to to mean compelling to people with a brain, not just “history channel made a speculation so I’m sold”

        • SCB@lemmy.world
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          If you’re taken in by conspiracy theories, it’s not because the information is compelling-but-unseen, but rather because you want to believe that

          A) information that confirms your biases is true

          B) you are privy to knowledge others don’t have.

          These two things reinforce one another.

    • SirWifflesprouts@lemmy.world
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      Sure, but something can be “compelling” for any number of reasons and truth or accuracy don’t need to factor in. People like to hear what makes them feel good or confirms their existing beliefs.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        So your model of why conservative views stick for some people is that they cause massive dopamine surges like a drug?

        Is it some kind of kundalini yoga mantra that tickles the roof of the mouth just right to activate the natural meth?

        And when considering that explanation versus the alternate explanation that they might have some good points, the magic meth words story is the one you’d go with?

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Enticing arguments. The rightwing media gives an enticing view of the world, to a certain demographic. Compelling would be more if we saw people from all walks of life being convinced.

    • forrgott@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Or, and I know this is really out there, but maybe, just maybe, facts don’t actually care about your feelings.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Yeah but you have no idea what claims are in these materials, because you think they’re too toxic to read.

        • forrgott@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Completely untrue. I’m not afraid of news outlets. I’m not afraid of what the “others” have to say

          Pretty sure you’re talking about yourself here, champ.

    • Blue@lemmy.world
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      this material contains compelling arguments

      Maybe for idiots