I’m aware, I went to Iraq with a lot of em. But outside the initial invasions, there weren’t really any “front lines”. Even after the wars, national guardsmen were told they were here more for natural disasters, and if they were to be deployed it would be in defense, taking over for deployed regular army at their bases, while they were deployed to war zones.
I’m just saying of all the military, the national guard is the most likely to have good intentions. Even if they are naive and delusional at this point.
I personally don’t think that in any way excuses them. They directly contribute to and supported the war machine that invades and kills innocent people.
If they wanted to be like a volunteer firefighter - be a volunteer firefighter, a paramedic, or anything that is directly responsible fore helping rescue people.
I mean, you’re not ENTIRELY wrong, but neither are they. The national guard has a long history of helping after disasters. I knew a ton of NG medics that were doing it for experience/college money to be EMTs, nurses, doctors, many of them already were. I absolutely can NOT say the same about MPs I’ve met. They’re just cops that were fit enough and smart enough to make it in, not having to settle for being civilian police.
Also, remember that for a lot of people, the military is their way out of the poverty. Many are just desperate to not go into homelessness or criminal enterprises. I’ve known a lot of people in those positions as well. It’s not like everybody raises their right arm just to kill poor people in other countries. Hell, while I was there, suicide bombers usually weren’t doing it for their ideology. Most were threatened by the actual terrorist groups. “Either you do this or well kill your whole family” kinda thing. And it wouldn’t be a nice poisoning, either. The whole community would be witness to the cruelty that would be unleashed if you told them “no”.
So sure, bash the military as a whole all you want. Even many positions within it. But for the individual, it’s likely significantly more nuanced than you’re acting. But yes… There are also a LOT of hate-filled shitbags in the ranks who did sign up to do exactly that, just not all of them.
They were still deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and worked front-line combat roles.
I’m aware, I went to Iraq with a lot of em. But outside the initial invasions, there weren’t really any “front lines”. Even after the wars, national guardsmen were told they were here more for natural disasters, and if they were to be deployed it would be in defense, taking over for deployed regular army at their bases, while they were deployed to war zones.
I’m just saying of all the military, the national guard is the most likely to have good intentions. Even if they are naive and delusional at this point.
I personally don’t think that in any way excuses them. They directly contribute to and supported the war machine that invades and kills innocent people.
If they wanted to be like a volunteer firefighter - be a volunteer firefighter, a paramedic, or anything that is directly responsible fore helping rescue people.
I mean, you’re not ENTIRELY wrong, but neither are they. The national guard has a long history of helping after disasters. I knew a ton of NG medics that were doing it for experience/college money to be EMTs, nurses, doctors, many of them already were. I absolutely can NOT say the same about MPs I’ve met. They’re just cops that were fit enough and smart enough to make it in, not having to settle for being civilian police.
Also, remember that for a lot of people, the military is their way out of the poverty. Many are just desperate to not go into homelessness or criminal enterprises. I’ve known a lot of people in those positions as well. It’s not like everybody raises their right arm just to kill poor people in other countries. Hell, while I was there, suicide bombers usually weren’t doing it for their ideology. Most were threatened by the actual terrorist groups. “Either you do this or well kill your whole family” kinda thing. And it wouldn’t be a nice poisoning, either. The whole community would be witness to the cruelty that would be unleashed if you told them “no”.
So sure, bash the military as a whole all you want. Even many positions within it. But for the individual, it’s likely significantly more nuanced than you’re acting. But yes… There are also a LOT of hate-filled shitbags in the ranks who did sign up to do exactly that, just not all of them.