- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
The de facto chat client used by gamers, often at the expense of platform-provided solutions, so I hope mods let this fly. Screen sharing of a game window is something that Discord figured out before anyone else, and it still might be the only one in town that works well for that use case. I’m about to start doing more research to see if any other programs can be subbed in, because this sucks. Wario64 facetiously linked a story about Discord getting hacked and revealing government IDs right underneath this story on Bluesky.
Discord is the last mainstream social media platform I still use, and god do I hate it. I hate the impact it’s had on online communities, moving everything underground to a place that isn’t indexed by search engines.
Unfortunately, I’m kind of stuck with it, I can’t disconnect from those communities that have chosen to tie themselves to this platform. If I did I really would be a hermit living in a cave.
Please keep being a squeaky wheel urging them to move to a better platform
Trying to convince people to come to Fedi is like trying to convince them to switch to Linux. They’re not gonna do it and they will get mad at me if I don’t shut the fuck up.
Migrations like this happen when the other thing sucks. Linux usage even on Steam has tripled in the past four years, and these days if I’m not coming across a PewDiePie or Linus Tech Tips video about switching to Linux, I’m hearing my least tech savvy friends come to me to say I was right for the past 9 years and that their next PC is going to run Linux, if not a Steam Machine. People switch to Bluesky or Mastodon when Twitter becomes all bots due to incentives that Musk put in place, or when his company-sanctioned AI generates CSAM. People will switch off of Discord when enough is enough, and requiring ID uploads to a database that will certainly be hacked one day could be it.
I’m expecting that if/when Discord does fall, people will just go to another corporate-owned platform that hasn’t enshittified yet… but inevitably will. And the cycle will repeat.
This is what we’re seeing with BlueSky. Sure, BlueSky pays lip service to federation in order to convince users they’re totally different, but in reality they’ve set it up so that nearly everything goes through their master server and they hold control. I don’t trust BlueSky any further than I can throw it, but ActivityPub is clearly losing the battle here.
For me, I think the thing that keeps Bluesky usable is that I can use it as a straight linear feed without an algorithm. It’s not truly federated, but the thing I’m always thinking about is that gag in South Park where they burn down the local Walmart and accidentally turn Joe’s Drugs into the new Walmart. Bluesky is safe from that as long as I’ve got the algorithm-less feed. Plus, Mastodon still works, always will, and I still use that too. Even if Discord users migrate to some other closed platform, it gives open alternatives more time to catch up to the most important features before that new platform takes a turn, too.
Unfortunately, I’m kind of stuck with it, I can’t disconnect from those communities that have chosen to tie themselves to this platform. If I did I really would be a hermit living in a cave.
I don’t really know anything like discord though. What would be a good alternative?
Matrix exists as a federated Discord-like. Though the problem I have with it is that it is a Discord-like, with the same problems of not being indexed by search engines. I don’t think these types of platforms are where most online communities should be. Not to say there’s no use case for a private group chat, but I hate that in a lot of communities Discord is being used for the wrong reasons.
The alternative for most Discord servers should be forums. Actually, I think Piefed/Lemmy/Mbin can work great as a modern federated forum, one that solves some of the friction of old-school forums by only needing users to have one Fedi account they can use everywhere.
TeamSpeak has screen sharing, but it’s currently only p2p. Server-side screen sharing is still in development.
How does it handle game windows? Presumably TeamSpeak cares more about such a use case, but I have to ask. How well does P2P screen sharing work for a group of about 10 people?
Because it’s client-side, it just depends. The specs of the computer sharing and available internet bandwidth will be a factor. In my experience it’s pretty reliable for non-video content, YT videos vary but are mostly fine. With games it depends on the video bit rate of the game. Minecraft would probably be fine, but Battlefield 6 may struggle. You only need the TeamSpeak 6 client to hop in a group call and try it out (an account is required as it’s in beta). If you do configure a TeamSpeak 6 server, you can screen share within the voice chat channel. Though I understand it probably isn’t easy to persuade your friends to try a new program. If you run into any issues, the support forum is very active.
I can convince my friends to try lots of things if I take care of the hard parts. Discord’s changes are not going over well in our server, so we’re looking for the parachutes. I understand it depends, but would you say it works well enough? Or is there even some other hack we can run where I’ve got OBS open in another window sending a stream out to something that isn’t Twitch, like our own video clients? If that’s easy enough to do, I could even convince my friends to do that.
I would say yes, it works well enough, and with updates, it should get better. Discord’s streaming is server-based, which is why it works well. When server-based screen sharing is released, it should exceed Discord. You also won’t need to buy Nitro. My group has been on TeamSpeak for years, and I’ve looked at a lot of different replacements but none of them fit my requirements (self-hosted, voice chat rooms, screen sharing.) I think the main thing for your group is if TeamSpeak would be sufficient to replace Discord. TeamSpeak currently doesn’t have the same features, such as text-channels, as Discord, so that has been a deal-breaker for some. My group never used them because we’ve been on TeamSpeak from the beginning. Text-channels in particular have been the most common request outside of screen sharing, so I think they will get implemented eventually, but the development team is smaller, so it will likely take many more months. Outside of the screen sharing, if TeamSpeak as an application works for your use case, then I would try it. You can host your own server or use one of their communities. You can also just add each other as contacts and start a call.
screen sharing is only a teamspeak 6 feature, right?
Correct, TeamSpeak 6, which is still in beta so it requires an account.





