They went to a judge and got a warrant to investigate the scene - a public area, that’s already unusual - and the brownshirts refused.
The level of bullshit went up a lot more just then.
They went to a judge and got a warrant to investigate the scene - a public area, that’s already unusual - and the brownshirts refused.
The level of bullshit went up a lot more just then.
Why are local cops surrendering the 10th amendment to a handful of feds? They have 10x that in cops, right there, overwhelm them to stand up for your state.
This is why no one likes these dems except for the republicans that puah them around.
You think cops are Dems?
The police are fascist generally. They are supervised ostensibly by democratic leaders, sheriffs that are elected excluded. City cops are overseen my mayors and city councils usually, with the power to replace them at will, in theory. In practice they are dirty and the cops could take them down, and were chosen to be weak and not upset entrenched interests, which sucks for us now with Republicans that have learned to play high stakes chicken with them and win every single time.
If you want a real answer instead of knee jerk hatred towards cops:
Cops are local police, and have local authority. They do not have jurisdiction or authority over federal agencies.
If they moved on ICE, that would literally start a Civil War. As law would become the word of local authority versus federal authority in determining who has any.
The officers in Minnesota are not defending ICE. They’re trying their best to not be the ones that start the Civil War ICE is trying to.
Because ICE has federal authority, anything local authority does will create a conflict that ICE and Trump will use to justify martial law. They want to use our military to invade swing states, so the Police in Minnesota are trying to prevent that through not openinly engaging with ICE agent provocateurs.
Police of a state have jurisdiction about the unlawful murder of their own citizens. The 10th amendment specifies powers not explicitly given to the feds belong to the state. The feds control interstate commerce, foreign relations, that’s about it. They have ursurped a lot of authority over the centuries, but claiming they can execute people contrary to both federal and state law and hold themselves harmless is a new one.
You might want to associate me with cop haters making that point, because you can’t argue the actual point. Local authority includes people executed locally contrary to law.
By not charging, and laying down, they guarenteed impunity, not a thing for federal agents to think twice about. They don’t have to worry about a state grabbing them, shipping them back. Not unless they cross the federal leadership.
Arguments that federals can execute citizens under false pretense contrary to law with impunity would never be accepted by red states, yet here you are.
I agree with everything you said. HOWEVER.
No police officer wants to be the one that gets the 10th Amendment challenged in court. These rules you described only exist UNTIL they are challenged.
Do you want them to be challenged given the current SCOTUS?
I don’t. As it would be a literal constitutional crisis. One that our currupt SCOTUS would forever change the norms of given the opportunity. State police are making sure they aren’t the ones providing said opportunity.
Because once SCOTUS corrupts the constitution, we will be actively in a civil war between their interpretation of the constitution, and what was before.
I’m aware of what the rules are. I’m also aware of how most of them have changed through Trumps court and likely will continue to given any and all opportunity.
It’s wise to not give them any.
In other words, the states shouldn’t exercise their own authority or else the feds will keep escalating the things they’re already doing? At this point I don’t see any reason to believe that Trump won’t declare martial law regardless of what Minnesota does. The question isn’t whether or not he will escalate, it’s whether or not there will be resistance.
Imo, the question is who fires the first shot. If it’s Minnesota PD, Trump will engineer them into the enemy and have a larger pool of people believing him.
If it’s ICE, and continues to be ICE, they will continue to lose support, and more importantly, continue to lose in the hearts and minds of those knowing where this is going.
As long as ICE keeps shooting first and asking quastions later, when things eventually escalate, they will meet the largest amount of resistance instead of the weakest.
Let the antagonizers make it clear who is antagonizing, and you absolutley will have a resistance.
At this point, I think we’re 1 more ICE shooting away from every American with a gun showing up to the Capitol to peacefully protest the same way it was done Jan 6th.
Because all cops are bastards.
Bad leadership. Blue cities have fascist police, do not police them, are dirty and vulnerable to those cops if they do check them. But more than anything they are chosen to be weak, to not challenge entrenched interests.
Same with biden, hillary, kamala, et al. They win as rejection of the other party on the sheep that trust the ivy league suits on tv to lead them. Maybe 10 pc of the population. But they vote in primaries and are led by those ivy leaguers that prevent any real leaders challenging them.
People like mamdami, in every district. Including some white dudes, why are there no white left leaders contesting? They are suppressed by the controlled opposition and republicans and both of their donor bases. Killed in the cradle.
Go back to ml with your shit ruspublican propaganda. Your whole profile is exclusively RT talking points.
I have no idea what you are talking about but I recognize your username as a troll. Figures you are still using ad hominems to further your, whatever you do on here. But your baseless accusation makes me wonder if you aren’t the alt account of hexrat or whatever you call yourselves. Some kind of mammal. Every accusation is a confession with people that use slander to obscure the issues.
This is a shill/troll account give it the respect it deserves. Block it and never care what it has to say.
Because how could anyone think Murder charges should have been filed against the feds after the 1st, and now after the 2nd Execution?
I would say tis your account that is trolling. Anyone that listens to you, good riddance.
Ok, and red cities and towns have fascist police that are more open about it and keep white hoods at home for after hours, so what’s your point? Acab?
You’re sick of the establishment in the Democratic party and want real leftists in charge, so that people aren’t voting for the lesser of two evils and can actually vote for a real progressive party?
More excusing bad leadership, as if our leaders aren’t chosen to be weak. I am continually surprised how many people still trust the establishment democrats even after everything. Even after no murder charges for a second cold blooded murder in violation of state law, under false pretense.
Your left right directionalism is way off the mark. We aren’t talking about left or right issues here, we are talking about protecting citizens, about affording the shield of law to citizens with the feds purposefully violating it, fully intent on running concentration camps with undesirables, and now certain they can execute protesters, lie and slander them to justify it, target their friends and associates, and do it again, and again, and again.
It’s hopeless with you guys out here shouting down calls for leadership, on top of this Controlled Opposition, supported by the rich, by right wing groups that want beatable opponents, and by Sheep that trust the ones that led them into the abyss.
Man it’s weird that you seem to be against what ice is doing but completely unwilling to blame Republicans for it. I mean, if the voters are the sheep, and Democrats are the shepherds, then the Republicans are the abyss they are being led into.
Bet you voted for a child fucker twice.
Hector is a Russian tankie propaganda bot from the ml instance. He only blames Democrats for what republicans do. He is literally a Russian troll
That’s fine, I’m enjoying taking up his time, and reminding everyone I can that they support child fucking if they support Trump. It’s funny.
You are the troll, perhaps an alt account for a hexbear. A troll saddling us with unwinnable candidates to say the least.
30% approval for 4 years anointed without a contest running as the status quo, and I’m the asshole for wanting new people for the next election?
The truth is, if anyone is working for the right wing here, it is you, as they interfere to saddle us with candidates that can’t win.
Given the 2024 election, no reasonable person could think that was a well run campaign, and to keep the same people in power to do it again, for the 3rd time in a row, is a recipe for permanent fascist dictatorship.
You voted for a Russian asset, and don’t seem to have any concept of how the US federal government functions, how the two party first past the post system functions, and how a vote for anything but the Democratic candidate is in fact a vote for the republicans. Refusing to acknowledge that simple reality confirms you’re here in bad faith.
You are slandering me, we never talked about whom we voted for. Your assumption of that gives lie to your sincerity as well.
I think you are an alternate account for a troll on hexbear. Pretty sure of it, explains your only a few comments, that has popped up both times I got into it with hexbear trolls. Admit it, you are trolling with an alt account, because everyone blocked your instance for just this type of behavior.
You are the one helping them by ensuring we get candidates in opposition that can’t win. You are a Generally Important Maga Player, or [redacted] for short.
Okay pedo lover.
Every accusation is a confession for Generally Important Maga Players such as yourself!
It’s sad you could even think you are helping, just goes to show you the path to hell is paved with fucking morons.
Whatever you say. Try not to fuck any kids on your way out of here.
It’s always the ones accusing others without evidence doing it themselves, and you do that with everyone you disagree with. The waiter that didn’t refill your water in time probably got accused to judging by your other comments and these. Half of the politicians and voters, then half of the remaining voters, then everyone that disagrees with you on something, probably people that didn’t vote. So you are out here claiming like 80 percent of the population is a pedophile without evidence, only something a pedophile would do.