I can’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I can say that if I was out of the country I would not go to the US for most reasons people travel. I have family in red states, and I have just decided not to visit them or go to family events there. They don’t even agree with the state government, but moved there because it was fiscally convenient, they were not personally affected by the laws, and they don’t mind being surrounded by people that agree with those policies. At a certain point we all have to make our own choices, and I would rather not spend money in a red state. If people come for life saving treatment, or they would lose their income otherwise, I can see how they would make that decision, but I seriously question anyone coming for things not related to life and limb.
People should boycott the US whenever possible at this point. We were always bad, but we’re out and out fascist at this point. I wouldn’t visit Germany during the rise of Hitler, so I don’t know why I’d make excuses for the US. I don’t think it’s about thinking you personally will get deported, it’s about solidarity and geopolitics.
I don’t disagree with anything you said, I am just saying that we need to look at a much larger reality so we understand exactly what the actual fight is about. The travel statistics in and out of the US is insane, even with all this going on, the world moves on and people are still doing what they need to do in mass numbers.
This whole immigration fight is strictly performative, and you can boycott visiting the US or any states you want, but it’s never been about actual travel in and out of the US, it’s about people who aren’t white being made to feel unwelcome so that the races in America are pitted against each other so we don’t unite against the actual enemy. (This is also why it’s utter bullshit that we have so much “anti ICE” protest being staged but aren’t seeing as broad of a message against the people who fund and empower them)
This is a staged fight so everyone picks a fight with the set-up villain of the story and ignores the storytellers.
I can’t speak for the person you’re responding to, but I can say that if I was out of the country I would not go to the US for most reasons people travel. I have family in red states, and I have just decided not to visit them or go to family events there. They don’t even agree with the state government, but moved there because it was fiscally convenient, they were not personally affected by the laws, and they don’t mind being surrounded by people that agree with those policies. At a certain point we all have to make our own choices, and I would rather not spend money in a red state. If people come for life saving treatment, or they would lose their income otherwise, I can see how they would make that decision, but I seriously question anyone coming for things not related to life and limb.
People should boycott the US whenever possible at this point. We were always bad, but we’re out and out fascist at this point. I wouldn’t visit Germany during the rise of Hitler, so I don’t know why I’d make excuses for the US. I don’t think it’s about thinking you personally will get deported, it’s about solidarity and geopolitics.
I don’t disagree with anything you said, I am just saying that we need to look at a much larger reality so we understand exactly what the actual fight is about. The travel statistics in and out of the US is insane, even with all this going on, the world moves on and people are still doing what they need to do in mass numbers.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/travel
This whole immigration fight is strictly performative, and you can boycott visiting the US or any states you want, but it’s never been about actual travel in and out of the US, it’s about people who aren’t white being made to feel unwelcome so that the races in America are pitted against each other so we don’t unite against the actual enemy. (This is also why it’s utter bullshit that we have so much “anti ICE” protest being staged but aren’t seeing as broad of a message against the people who fund and empower them)
This is a staged fight so everyone picks a fight with the set-up villain of the story and ignores the storytellers.