When Balint’s time expired, and the out lawmaker yielded back, Bondi asked for a moment to respond, and used it to go on the offensive: “You didn’t ask Merrick Garland anything about Epstein,” she said. Balint shot back: “Weak sauce.”

Bondi then escalated: “And with this anti-Semitic culture right now, she voted against a resolution …”

Balint cut her off: “Oh really? Do you want to go there, attorney general?” she said. “Talking about antisemitism to a woman who lost her grandfather in the Holocaust?”

The lawmaker then got up and left the room.

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      The bar associations have shown themselves to be unwilling and unable to police politically connected republicans. They couldn’t even make much stick for 2020 and the filing of bad faith lawsuits to overthrow the republic in all but name, and half the consequences were overturned on appeal. All too little too late to begin with.

      The bar associations moreover are the epitomy of an Old Boy’s Club. They are the aristocracy, they cover for each other, and mercilessly persecute whatever out groups the old boys have decreed. The disfavored poor being the main one. Previously though it was bad faith child abuse/devil worship allegations, in the 80s and 90s, the Satanic Panic, no one saw any disbarrment from that either, despite knowingly sending innocent people to prison, suppressing evidence, manufacturing evidence, pushing theories of the case that were physically impossible and irrefutably contradicted by the facts, and reality. Then fighting to keep the convicted in prison, suppressing exculpatory evidence, and even misfiling case information to prevent do gooder lawyer groups from getting their hands on the case information to get the people freed (Bakersfield Ca at a minimum, the heart of darkness.)

      This was a disgusting thing, and they spread it to all corners of the country, knowingly framing people for the most horrendous abuses, come to find out at the behest of the old boy’s club that was actually doing this stuff with Epstein. It truly is all projection. But the bar was unwilling to even damage a reputation, let alone disbarr any of these prosecutors and other lawyers involved for this most heinous of ethical perversions. They showed themselves unwilling and unable to police the 2020 election deniers, bringing cases too late, too little of charges and of punishments, an overturning of half of those already paltry punishments, and a lack of even condemnations. The old boys don’t turn on each other, not if they want to remain in the club.

      It’s a big club, and we aren’t in it. Democracy isn’t well in it anymore either, the election deniers are kicking it out.

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        What are you talking about? Leticia James successfully prosecuted Trump on 34 felony counts. Another civil trial found him liable for RAPE, and fined him nearly $100 million. Jack Smith’s Insurrection and Stolen Documents cases were proceeding along through various motions, and would have gone to trial, and still will after Trump is out.

        Two of his hand-picked legal babes, chosen only because they’d go to court when every other lawyer refused, and because they were super-hot, have been ORDERED to resign or face prison, because they are legally ineligible to hold those positions, but were too ignorant to even know that.

        In addition, grand juries are refusing to go along with retaliatory indictments, which is nearly unheard of, and judges have been tossing all of Trump’s weaponization trials. Others are proceeding through the courts, but nearly every judge has been hostile to the DoJ lawyers.

        And even SCOTUS hasn’t been the rubber stamp they expected.

        So tell me again how the courts are letting him get away with EVERYTHING.

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          There wasn’t even any charges filed until about a year before the next presidential election as I recall. But we are talking about the bar, which is different than criminal or civil cases filed. This was a failure both, especially, of prosecutors at state and especially federal level; and a failure of the Barr associations in policing their members though since you bring up for the former…

          The king of delay tactics, involved in over 10k lawsuits where he has abused others in all of them, was always going to delay these cases, a year out is no where near enough time. 2021 is when cases had to be filed, and this was all done in plain sight, there was nothing to investigate, January 2021 charges should have been filed, at least interem ones, and you can add or ammend the charges later.

          Anyone telling you otherwise is playing you, passing the buck for prosecutors that failed in their most basic, and important, duties, preventing the Republic from being killed, elections rigged, and one party put in permanent position, to otherwise abuse the tenants of the constitution and laws of the united states.

          Likewise as I said, the Barr failed, too little too late, and higher ups at the barrs cancelled half of the already too little too late punishments, as it was clear the traitors were going to win at that point, and it was clear they were going to win because they didn’t enforce the law on the betrayal of the country in 2021.

          I shouldn’t have to argue this, it’s evident, it’s right in front of us, there is no reasonable explanation for the failure of the Old Boys to save the Republic. The blame starts at the leader of the opposition party, Biden, and trickles down from there.

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            Biden appointed the most feckless Republican to be his AG, who then predictably dithered and slow-walked the prosecutions and gave Trump a two year head start in running out the clock, which is one of the few things he is actually an expert at, as you pointed out.

            But it was the timing that PAUSED his prosecutions, not the courts. Most of those cases are ready to become active when he’s out of office, and that WILL happen.

            When we take this country back, our Dem leaders WILL punish MAGA for their CRIMES, or they will get punished right alongside them. Cowardice and incompetence from our leaders will no longer be tolerated, no matter their political affiliation.

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              If only, I don’t share your optimism. We could do that, but we are on track not to, as under the leadership of the establishment democrats we can’t win, and the odds of not losing are vanishingly small, and even then it would kick the can down the road while things continue to degenerate.

              Republicans are openly cheating every way they can, and there is nothing left to stop them. Biden didn’t protect anyone that did their duty and defended elections, he didn’t do anything to those that tried to pervert it. From the hundreds of death threats to election workers that went unpunished, to allowing generals that refused to back up the capitol until it was clear the coup would fail, to the Secret Service in on the coup, and deleting the text evidence of that despite being ordered not to. All without consequence.

              When the army fails, it’s the fault of the commander. The AG failing is no excuse, its not noble allowing captured federal agencies to remain so, and ignoring that he didn’t say or do anything, leaving the Justice Department to tackle the seditionists alone, without back up. Without leading the charge, which enables and encourages everyone up and down the line to do what they can. There were no protests demanding they be prosecuted, the president didn’t even talk about it, because the projections of the Republicans about politicizing the Justice Department.

              January 2021 should have seen Garland being dismissed. At the end of that month he was already going to fail. By March at the latest, and should have been replaced. But all federal agencies fail in their statutory duties, and not directing executive branch agencies to fulfill their mission and duty is a failure in duty.

              To think the same people are still in charge of the Party, that they have learned anything, is just not accurate as much as we would like to think so. I know it seems like they couldn’t help but learn something, but they didn’t.

              And there s no excuse for their failure to see prosecutions in 4 years to be clear. Idk if you are suggesting it’s not their fault, the attorneys working for the government, but they failed, they knew they were failing, they were staying in the club, not doing their duty.

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                Your scenarios require Democrats to not learn ANYTHING from their past behavior, and it’s consequences. We cannot allow them, and especially incoming Democrats, to repeat their past poor choices.

                We are in unprecedented territory, and it will require unprecedented solutions to redeem them is nation in the eyes of its citizens, the world, and history. We cannot fall back on the proven failed past Democratic strategies of politeness and scolding and expect MAGAs to suddenly become moral. They are ignorant and anti-intellectual. Scolding them like the terrible children they surely were, and still are, isn’t going to change them.

                It is imperative that the Democratic Party shift their position, and see MAGA as the proven serious National Security Threat that they genuinely are, and it’s leadership and much of its elected following as Domestic Terrorists, and deal with them as such.

                In the future, we cannot be polite or fair to these people. They are LITERALLY mind-bogglingly corrupt, traitors, racists, and pedophiles, and we have no obligation to treat them politely at all. We see how they treat those that they hate, and most of those people have done nothing at all. MAGA has EARNED far harsher treatment.

                They know it, too. We don’t have to play dirty, like they do, we just have to play Hard Ball, and mercilessly charge them with every CRIME. It isn’t about being MAGA, it’s about launching and participating in an Insurrection. It’s about stealing hundreds of Classified documents. It’s about taking bribes. It’s about using pardons to commit obstruction of justice, etc. None of it is political, it is all criminal, and they should be tried, prosecuted, and sentenced for those crimes. They understand that what they’ve done should be met with long prison sentences, and in some case capital punishment. They would enthusiastically, gleefully do it to any of us, and we don’t even deserve it. They do.

                Time to play Hard Ball.

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            The consequences? He’s going to pay E.Jean Carroll over $85 million dollars, it’s already out of his hands, and in escrow. It will eventually go to her, if it hasn’t already.

            He will carry his 34 felony convictions for life, which also came with some serious restrictions on his company.

            Both those legal babes lost their cushy jobs, and may yet be disbarred. They’re still young, so that will wreck their lives, even worse than being associated with MAGA will.

            And when he’s out of office, he WILL be tried for his Insurrection and Stolen Classified Documents cases, and he will almost certainly lose, and spend a significant length in prison, probably for life.

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      You’d want to contact the Florida bar where she’s licensed, not that place. But the Florida bar won’t do jack about complaints against her.

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        Yes, exactly. This is her license in Florida, but honestly it’s harder to find a more corrupt bunch of attorneys in the US. They do take legal fuckery to the next level down there (as Epstein’s own multiple sweetheart deals proved).

        You see her behavior here, yet she was AG of the state from 2011 to 2019. Look at her wiki and it’s clear she’s done whatever she wanted for quite some time, however questionable the ethics, and the FL Bar hasn’t disciplined her yet.

        I’m sure there are some honest lawyers doing the best they can for their clients down there and I don’t want to denigrate them, but the higher up you go the more corrupt they are. Don’t hold your breath waiting for the elites of the FL Bar to smack her hand for being exactly like they are.

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          Run the entire Florida Bar and palm beach police department through a search of the Epstein files. I bet the highest ranking members of both are in there more than theh should be.

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            Florida Bar, yes. But the funny thing is that the chief of police in Palm Beach, Michael Reiter, was a hero: he kept working on it even after higher ups were doing everything they could to shut him down, even going over his state and county to the feds. Without him and the handful of detectives who kept going regardless of the corruption they were faced with at every level, we would not now be aware of Jeffrey Epstein and the peculiar pastimes of his class.

            The rest of them though? Hell yeah.

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      The ABA doesn’t oversee an attorney’s license. That is done in the state that the person got their license in (kinda like driving licenses). The ABA is merely an advisory bar that is comprised of a collective of states that serve as an advisory council to the states (think an advisory UN of sorts).