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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has selected his daughter as his heir, South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Thursday.
Kim Ju Ae - who is believed to be 13 - has in recent months been pictured beside her father in high-profile events like a visit to Beijing in September, her first known trip abroad.
The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said it took a “range of circumstances” into account including her increasingly prominent public presence at official events" in making this assessment.
Would you consider the Netherlands or Denmark a democracy? Both have literal monarchies.
Constitutional Monarchy are very different and limited form of monarchy, where the monarch have very limited power or are simply there for ceremonial purpose. The king doesn’t command the parliament, and cannot make policy, and at most can suggest it.
I live in a country with constitutional monarchy and they mostly just there, occasionally making remark and have their opinions. They however still have the power to veto bill and reject project, but it happen very very rarely. They’re mostly there as religious leader and political weapon for some.
So to answer your question, yes, Netherlands and Denmark both practice constitutional monarchy, hence they’re still considered democracy.
Ok, now, can you conceive that the Kim family’s role is more representative than it is de-facto monarchical power? I’m not saying that the DPRK’s parliament is democratically elected, I’m questioning whether we can, with the information at our disposal in the west, affirm that the politics of the DPRK are controlled by one particular family and not by, say, the cadres of their communist party.
Firstly, to say that Kim family is merely ceremonial mean you have to proof that someone else is running the show, that hatched all the plans, that have the final say. We don’t have that information. What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea, that rule and guide the country, that inherited the power from his father.
Of course, a king need a general and a treasurer, whether they are the one in control or not is not a known fact, and that will remained a mystery until someone close to them speak.
So yes, with the information the world have, we can safely say North Korea is run by a single family.
I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box
This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?
I absolutely would not have described Queen Elizabeth as the most powerful person in our country at any time of her reign.
The Queen/King is quite literally above the law in the UK. So yes.
Influential? Yes. The current clown not so much.
What non-democratically-chosen capitalist owner would you have chosen then?
I’m going to invite you to go ahead and rephrase that in a way that is not completely nonsensical. Cuz I don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to say there or what it had to do with anything I said.
I can also say the same for all prime minister and president in country without monarch and with constitutional monarch. That is exactly what a leader of the country are. What is exactly your point here?
Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?
A society whose results don’t match those of a personal monarchic dictatorship. For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves. There’s no public healthcare, no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.
In the DPRK, there’s widespread public transit infrastructure with trains and trams, public education for everyone, public healthcare, good workers’ rights relative to their level of development, people-centered urban planning, collectivized agriculture… You wouldn’t expect any of these things from an absolutist monarchy.
I would love to have source for your claim on north korea, because your claim on saudi arabia is all but nonsense, and is really easily dispelled with a little bit of internet search.
And across the history, some king are known to have build a lot of public infrastructure, while others don’t. That isn’t a sign of governance type, that is the sign of the competence of the leadership.
About Saudi Arabia:
Demographics in Saudi Arabia:
When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights, idk what you’re claiming false about my arguments
Yes, we can definitively prove that the NK political theater is run by the Kim family. Watch any video of their “congress” meeting, and it’s just a group of NPCs clapping mindlessly to everything Kim Jong il says.
“Political power comes from televised claps”
-No serious political analysis ever
Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t make you look smarter.
Your entire knowledge of the DPRK comes from western propaganda, I’m not the obtuse one here.
Ah yes, South Korean interviews of North Koreans that have managed to flee the country- classic western propaganda. Fellate yourself less, maybe?
Unironically yes. Russia literally does this with the right wing US émigrées that move to Russia because gay rights are shit there and “they have no woke”, these people literally get paid to do such propaganda.
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And how much political power do the monarchs have?
And how much political power does the Kim family really have? How much do we really know about the DPRK?
Hm, how much Power does a family have that is venerated like a god and that can order the assassination of family members on foreign soil? Surely the Kim’s and the Danish monarch are the same
Anyone with enough money can order assassination of anyone on any foreign soil. That isn’t really an argument.
Any president can order the assassination of people on foreign soil, look at the US under Biden assassinating tens of thousands of Palestinians in Israel, or what happened to Lady Dee at the behest of the royal family of England.
But I’m not familiar with what you’re describing in particular, could you please gimme a source to read on?
Biden was the elected president of the US. He held power over political decisions, just like the Kims, but unlike the Danish Monarch. Kind of defeating your own argument here.
Lady Dee theories are interesting, haven’t read much about them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Kim_Jong-nam Kim Jong-nam was a potential rival for the Throne and got killed for it. The Kims do hold the power in the DPRK.
From your own article:
So, it is not factually known who really killed him (rather on behalf of whom), but that’s enough to you to claim absolute power by the Kim family?