I watched some of the parts and I thought she did amazingly well, in MAGA terms. There is no way she could do it better with all the facts against her.
She doged questions, she did incoherent rants, interrupted people constantly, attacked the interviewers. It was despicable, everything MAGA like. I don’t see why they aren’t thrilled about her. She was trump on steroids.
Because Trump sold them the Epsteins files during his campaign. He promised to release the files and the list in full transparency. Most of the MAGA base is now invested in the Epstein files and want to see billionaire pedophiles punished. Pam Bondi acted like MAGA usually wants her to act, except this time she was acting against MAGA. She interrupted and attacked the people who asked the questions MAGA wanted answers for and instead of giving any answers she dodged the questions and wasted time on incoherent rants instead of giving the information MAGA wants. She did everything “right” but she did it against the wrong crowd.
There’s a CNN polling data from the end of last year that shows only 12% of republicans are satisfied with the amount of information released on the Epstein case, 21% are dissatisfied and the majority are don’t care or don’t know. Now those numbers have gone more in the favor of what the administration is doing compared to polling on the same questions 6 months earlier where 4% were satisfied and 40% was dissatisfied. I don’t think I need to find polling data on Trumps popularity, I think it’s pretty obvious that his support among his base is high. So there’s an obvious disconnect between supporting Trump and believing the Epstein files are properly handled.
Overall the sentiment in the republican party is that they’re not satisfied with how much has been released and I think the change in the trend has less to do with MAGA falling in line and more to do with them getting disillusioned by the administration, because what happened between those 6 months was that the first files were released and they were heavily redacted. Of course hardcore MAGA accepted what they saw and were happy to move on but the rest expected to get something and the administration tried to serve them nothing. I feel like that falls perfectly in line with why MAGA turned on Bondi.
I don’t think there’s a divide. Anyone who has a doubt will stuff that fucker down rather than face the ridicule of the ingroup and outgroup simultaneously.
I think the thing people need to come to terms with is that while we insist on playing everything by the book, because it’s the right thing to do, they are playing by a completely different book that literally uses our own book against us. We continue playing right into their hands, and we’re eventually going to have to change our playbook very drastically, and it’s not going to be comfortable. We can’t win this by continuing to play by the same book that got us here.
It seems like everyone’s pinning their hopes on the midterms despite the clear evidence already available that not only are they in the process of being manipulated and rigged, and they’ve still got over half a year to be even more egregious about it, but even if they aren’t or if they don’t succeed, there’s a good chance that the other side will make up their own numbers anyway and create a smoke screen of misinformation or simply refuse to follow the rules like they’ve already been doing this whole time. Even if Dems take back the house and the senate, where’s their actual power to do anything about any of this? What actual enforcement mechanism can they actually implement that isn’t procedural and “by the book”, the exact same book that Trump’s administration is ignoring?
“The book” and even “the constitution” is just words on paper, and we’ve entered an era where the sword is once again mightier than the pen. Where’s our swords? If Trump starts doing everything by executive order again, continues stacking the deck in all the militarized federal law enforcement institutions to surround himself in his own personal gestapo and use them to enforce his executive orders, who’s going to actually try anything to stop him? Who’s going to be brave enough to take actual action against his militarized forces to stop him? And it’s not enough to just have one guy or a handful willing to stand up to him. Yeah, maybe that will embolden some more to stand up to him, but you don’t just need to have some guys stand up to him, you need to stand up and win against an army of violent thugs, you need your own army, and it needs to be a well-trained army that can actually beat these fuckers in direct combat. A bunch of angry guys shouting mean things in congress and the senate and courtrooms and hearings aren’t going to stop him, no matter what book they think still matters. The violent thugs on the ground will not stop because of any book unless Trump’s the one writing it. I think this is going to get real, real bad. I desperately hope to be wrong, but I’m not willing to concede that I am.
I can’t disagree with any of that, but I’m reluctant to agree.
Yes, it’s absolutely true that “going high” and “checks and balances” has absolutely failed. Repeatedly.
I also agree that republicans are doing everything they can to stack the midterms. I think the plan is, if the swing against Trump is large enough then it becomes extraordinarily difficult / impossible to obscure. My concern here is that if everything goes to plan and Trump can be somehow removed, and then the Dems win a decisive victory in 2028 (?) and you have a Dem POTUS… nothing will be wound back. They’ll disappear the tariffs and normalise the economy, and set the stage for the a do-over with the next Republican government.
You may well be right about violent revolution, but I feel like there needs to be a very high level of desperation for people to organise against an oppressive regime, and I just don’t think the US is anywhere near that.
I watched some of the parts and I thought she did amazingly well, in MAGA terms. There is no way she could do it better with all the facts against her.
She doged questions, she did incoherent rants, interrupted people constantly, attacked the interviewers. It was despicable, everything MAGA like. I don’t see why they aren’t thrilled about her. She was trump on steroids.
*DOGED questions!
It’s because she’s a woman
Because Trump sold them the Epsteins files during his campaign. He promised to release the files and the list in full transparency. Most of the MAGA base is now invested in the Epstein files and want to see billionaire pedophiles punished. Pam Bondi acted like MAGA usually wants her to act, except this time she was acting against MAGA. She interrupted and attacked the people who asked the questions MAGA wanted answers for and instead of giving any answers she dodged the questions and wasted time on incoherent rants instead of giving the information MAGA wants. She did everything “right” but she did it against the wrong crowd.
I know polling is useless, but I would really appreciate some good data on the “MAGA divide”. All of my family members are still on the Trump Train.
There’s a CNN polling data from the end of last year that shows only 12% of republicans are satisfied with the amount of information released on the Epstein case, 21% are dissatisfied and the majority are don’t care or don’t know. Now those numbers have gone more in the favor of what the administration is doing compared to polling on the same questions 6 months earlier where 4% were satisfied and 40% was dissatisfied. I don’t think I need to find polling data on Trumps popularity, I think it’s pretty obvious that his support among his base is high. So there’s an obvious disconnect between supporting Trump and believing the Epstein files are properly handled.
Overall the sentiment in the republican party is that they’re not satisfied with how much has been released and I think the change in the trend has less to do with MAGA falling in line and more to do with them getting disillusioned by the administration, because what happened between those 6 months was that the first files were released and they were heavily redacted. Of course hardcore MAGA accepted what they saw and were happy to move on but the rest expected to get something and the administration tried to serve them nothing. I feel like that falls perfectly in line with why MAGA turned on Bondi.
I don’t think there’s a divide. Anyone who has a doubt will stuff that fucker down rather than face the ridicule of the ingroup and outgroup simultaneously.
I tend to agree.
Theres blood in the water and they’ve thrown her in to try to slake the shark’s appetite.
The whole point of a fall person is to take the fall, and shes doing that well.
I think the thing people need to come to terms with is that while we insist on playing everything by the book, because it’s the right thing to do, they are playing by a completely different book that literally uses our own book against us. We continue playing right into their hands, and we’re eventually going to have to change our playbook very drastically, and it’s not going to be comfortable. We can’t win this by continuing to play by the same book that got us here.
It seems like everyone’s pinning their hopes on the midterms despite the clear evidence already available that not only are they in the process of being manipulated and rigged, and they’ve still got over half a year to be even more egregious about it, but even if they aren’t or if they don’t succeed, there’s a good chance that the other side will make up their own numbers anyway and create a smoke screen of misinformation or simply refuse to follow the rules like they’ve already been doing this whole time. Even if Dems take back the house and the senate, where’s their actual power to do anything about any of this? What actual enforcement mechanism can they actually implement that isn’t procedural and “by the book”, the exact same book that Trump’s administration is ignoring?
“The book” and even “the constitution” is just words on paper, and we’ve entered an era where the sword is once again mightier than the pen. Where’s our swords? If Trump starts doing everything by executive order again, continues stacking the deck in all the militarized federal law enforcement institutions to surround himself in his own personal gestapo and use them to enforce his executive orders, who’s going to actually try anything to stop him? Who’s going to be brave enough to take actual action against his militarized forces to stop him? And it’s not enough to just have one guy or a handful willing to stand up to him. Yeah, maybe that will embolden some more to stand up to him, but you don’t just need to have some guys stand up to him, you need to stand up and win against an army of violent thugs, you need your own army, and it needs to be a well-trained army that can actually beat these fuckers in direct combat. A bunch of angry guys shouting mean things in congress and the senate and courtrooms and hearings aren’t going to stop him, no matter what book they think still matters. The violent thugs on the ground will not stop because of any book unless Trump’s the one writing it. I think this is going to get real, real bad. I desperately hope to be wrong, but I’m not willing to concede that I am.
I can’t disagree with any of that, but I’m reluctant to agree.
Yes, it’s absolutely true that “going high” and “checks and balances” has absolutely failed. Repeatedly.
I also agree that republicans are doing everything they can to stack the midterms. I think the plan is, if the swing against Trump is large enough then it becomes extraordinarily difficult / impossible to obscure. My concern here is that if everything goes to plan and Trump can be somehow removed, and then the Dems win a decisive victory in 2028 (?) and you have a Dem POTUS… nothing will be wound back. They’ll disappear the tariffs and normalise the economy, and set the stage for the a do-over with the next Republican government.
You may well be right about violent revolution, but I feel like there needs to be a very high level of desperation for people to organise against an oppressive regime, and I just don’t think the US is anywhere near that.