• forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 day ago

    No, we need a complete overhaul of our voting system. As things currently stand, a third party will never have any real power on the national level. And don’t get me wrong, local elections are really important, even more than national in many ways. But without proportional representation, there will never be real meaningful change.

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      3 hours ago

      While I agree an overhaul is needed, I disagree about a third party not being able to have power. We used to have the Whigs, whose party was much like our Democratic establishment regarding ICE/Slavery. Eventually, many of their supporters got fed up and made the Republican Party, going on to side with the Union in the Civil War.

      While I wouldn’t mind the Democratic Party being hijacked by a leftist tea party, I am also fine with it getting overtaken by a new party. Both are valid options, so long as we are willing to believe in the possibility.

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        2 hours ago

        That’s only ever happened temporariily during a shifting of the power and influence of the parties. And although it’s may appear we had three parties, only two are really in power at a time. Also, the third always loses relevance and disappear.

        Frankly, this isn’t a matter of opinion, anyway, and to frame it as such is either ignorant or malicious. It is literally_impossible_ to sustain three parties within the rules of our voting and political system.

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      13 hours ago

      I totally agree, but I think it’s a question of how to go about achieving that overhaul. I think the best method for that right now is to “hijack” the primaries of one of the political parties, get the old guard out, and nominate new candidates that want to see that reform. I don’t see that happening with the Republican party for hopefully obvious reasons, which just leaves the Democrats.

      All the while leading up to midterms, get organized outside the party system, stage protests and strikes advocating for changes to the system. And if it’s clear the midterms are rigged, or the newly elected Democrats fail to push reform, use those same external organizations to tear it all down and probably write a new Constitution (something I didn’t think I’d be advocating for two years ago).

      But right now, the most important thing is getting involved in getting organized and getting involved in the primaries. Here’s a list of dates I found: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-primary-elections/calendar

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        6 hours ago

        And one more detail that we don’t want to overlook: the path to shaking up primaries starts right in your backyard. But that I mean the local elections. It feels so small to think about how much some random city officer means in the grand scheme - but the truth is the opposite, the unknown random jackass that maintains the lift stations (or whatever), those are the people who matter. Not a cheetoh-faced McDictator who thinks he matters but can’t remember why.

        And here’s why: that tiny sliver of “power” in the have of the little guy, if, and only if, you combine that with the tiny sliver in the hands of all the other nobodies, the combined strength is unstoppable - far more than a Mango Mussolini in a diaper.

        But, fucking eh have they gotten good at convincing all us nobodies to avoid solidarity. But we have to just figure it out anyway, cause there is no losing. Not this time. It’s win, or there nothing left to win or lose next time…

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      1 day ago

      Third party gets in power and then packs the Supreme Courts. Then passes vote reform and proportional voting. Then disbands the electoral college. Then dismisses the Senate.

      LOOK A PERSON CAN DREAM OK!

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        3 hours ago

        This is the way.

        Also, expand and reform the supreme court, such as preventing presidents from picking replacements, age limits, term limits, rules against bribery, and so on.

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        20 hours ago

        I like it. Fuck, it’s way better then what we have right now!

        I’ll dream with ya!