After the Trump rocked the continent with his threat to take Greenland, the prime minister praises Europe as a ‘sleeping giant’
Britain’s “Brexit years” are over, Sir Keir Starmer will tell world leaders on Saturday as he calls for closer security ties with Europe – and less reliance on Donald Trump’s United States.
After transatlantic tensions flared following the US president’s repeated threats to take Greenland from Denmark, the prime minister will call for Europe to curb its dependence on the US, while praising the continent as a “sleeping giant” whose economic and military might can defeat its enemies.
After surviving the most tumultuous week of his premiership so far, including an attempt to oust him from office, Sir Keir will also warn that turning inwards, as the UK did during Brexit, would amount to “surrender” in a perilous era.
No one needs that fat child rapist. No one, and nothing.
The whole damned world would be a better place if Donvict Drumpf’s sperm donating cunt of a father had vomited that rancid spunk out of his racist cock into an electrical socket and slowly shocked himself to death.Instead we get an obese kiddie fiddler and his scummy kids fucking things up left, right, and centre. Die, orange paedo, DIE.
What a funny coincidence! We don’t need trump, either.
It’s time for the UK to accept Brexit was a fuckup and get this fixed. Friends forgive friends right?
The EU and the UK could just publish a report that Brexit was planned and orchestrated by Russian intelligence (which is no secret at all) and open the way for the UK to rejoin under the old terms. There is no reason to further punish them, we would all be better off if they get back in even if it is under the favorable conditions that they threw down the drain back in 2016.
Unfortunately the old favourable terms are gone and won’t come back. Too toxic in Europe and only 1 country would need to veto it to stop it. Iit’s very unlikely the UK will rejoin in the near future as the Common Agricultural Programme remains broken, and signing up for the Euro would remain very toxic. Those are the two big exceptions we had. And of course, free movement of people remains politically toxic in the UK, and we’d never get an exception to that.
I was strongly in favour of remaining, and I’m leaning in favour of rejoining but I’m not massively keen. The reason being Europe was very politically controversial in British politics for decades and Brexit dominated politics for years over all other issues. I am in favour of rejoining the customs union; but even that will be a big ask in the UK and in Europe.
The right wing in the UK are against regulatory alignment and “taking orders” from Europe. And our broken first-past-the-post electoral system gives them disproportionate power in this country. European neighbours would rightly be risk-averse for signing a deal with the UK which another right wing government could just come along and tear up.
The UK should focus on electoral reform before ever considering rejoining the EU. We need true representative democracy, instead of the joke elections we have had such as Boris Johnson getting a huge majority in parliament. He got 44% of the vote and got 56% of the seats, forcing his version of Brexit on the country. And within that parliament the right wing had power within his party because there were enough of them to deny him his majority - their deal or no deal. So we got a hard Brexit. And any deals other governments make can be unpicked in the same way - a small extreme right wing minority can dominate the discourse.
So forget rejoining; push for proportional representation. Our democracy is backwards and stuck in the 19th century.
I think trust would be the big obstacle from the EU’s POV. No point allowing us back in if we’re just going to leave again when the next lot get in
I think if anybody can take us back into the EU it’ll have to be the Tories. Or if the Tories really are dead, Reform
Im not holding my breath
The old terms were very favourable to UK, I don’t see how EU would agree to them again in 2026.
The UK would be the second largest economy in the EU. There isn’t a way they join without favorable terms.
That’s why I am saying, publish the report. Let everyone know that this was orchestrated as a measure to weaken and exploit Europe and let them back in under the old terms for our own good.
The only thing Russia did was give Britain a little nudge to get them over the finish line. The “Europe question” has been circulating in the UK politics longer than UK has been in the EU and IMO it’s been circulating because of British exceptionalism.
When the ECSC was formed UK decided to stay out because UK thought it was still a global superpower. When the ECSC became EEC Britain still decided to stay away. The UK didn’t join the EEC until it became apparent that the UK was lagging behind the EEC. And then literally 2 years after joining the EEC, in 1975, Britain held effectively brexit 1.0 referendum, which obviously didn’t pass. Then in 80s labour ran on a campaign to leave the EEC. Then in the 90s when the EEC became the EU Britain opted out from integrations. Since the EU became a real thing UK has been consistently one of the most eurosceptic countries in the EU.
Even if such a report was published it wouldn’t excuse the decades of anti-EU sentiment. Nor would it guarantee the UK wouldn’t do it again, after all they’ve had 2 attempts at it
And even if the EU was so naive to believe such a report would be enough, there’s no chance the UK comes back with all its privileges. The budget rebate is clearly against the interest of the EU. The others are less egregious but they’re essentially opt outs of integrating with the EU so demanding those back is IMO contradictory to wanting to rejoin the EU. They shouldn’t get those back, so that leaving would become such a headache they wouldn’t try a third time.
Sorry, but the EU won’t accept the pre-Brexit deal with the UK. One just can’t have the cake and eat it. The EU don’t want another time wasting happening with other countries leaving the union as well, and regretting only to come back as if nothing happened.
Yes, we want the UK back in.
Reforms poll numbers would suggest otherwise I’m afraid…
Yeah but who listens to, or believes, the polls anymore? It’s an outdated concept that is used for nothing more than to sway public opinion.
Wut? What ridiculousness is this? How do you suggest we determine what groups of people want?
I believe the guy above was referring to Gallups statement on their discontinuation of presidential approval polls after 88 years.
Maybe we should have folks come together say “Hey! This person represents at least a plurality of our approval. Let’s sentence them to spending the next 5 years or so in a rundown palace next to a big clock where their closest neighbors hang out on red pillows all day.”
Since they have the biggest piles of votes we can call the vote gathering days erections, since vote counters will stack ballots on top of each other and the biggest pile wins.
Yes. Start sticking up for yourself too. Do what the people want not what the vocal minority makes you think we want.
Endorsement by this shitbag is bad news for EU-UK relations. Better he shut his mouth and resign.
