• wampus@lemmy.ca
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    11 hours ago

    Just like our government used those hate speech laws to punish musk, a canadian citizen, for doing nazi salutes on international media / supporting fascist ideals openly?

    I dont see it happening. Many of our laws are just for poor people / commoners.

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      11 hours ago

      I get the sentiment but I fail to see what the Judicial Branch of Canada could have done to Musk about that.

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        11 hours ago

        Hate speech is a criminal offense in Canada. Any other citizen doing a nazi salute and promoting white supremacy risks literal jail time. Hell, the guy subsequently pushed out a kiddy-porn grok tool, and still isn’t getting held accountable.

        One of the functions of the courts is to basically “make examples” of public/blatant violations of the laws, to re-enforce the importance of obeying the laws to other would be criminals.

        Musk lands in Canada, as he frequently does, you throw him in Jail. Max sentence is two years, so have him serve the max – I mean, the scale of his actions certainly would warrant a proper display of punishment. We threw Meng Wanzhou in jail based on the descriptions she provided for doing Wire Transfers, held her in Canada for years before she was released. So, that’s what the government’d do if Musk wasn’t a billionaire/US figure immune to all laws in Canada. Laws that only really apply to the poors.

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          Hate speech is a criminal offense in Canada.

          The operative words here are “in Canada.”

          Musk hasn’t done anything in Canada that would meet the definition of hate speech.

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            5 hours ago

            Canada isn’t beyond going after people for crimes committed in other countries. Just look at how well we’ve repatriated and ‘forgiven’ the atrocities of people who went and joined ISIS. Or that swirly-face guy who did the whole child-sex-tourism thing in Thailand, but still got nabbed in Canada for it. Or Meng, who’s wires were sent outside of Canada, and yet she was still detained, by Canada, for years, because the US said so.

            Saying “Nothing can be done!” is not the attitude Canada has taken in other scenarios. Even when the person is basically let go after a while (Meng), they still took some action. Here, Canada just shrugs, and lets the US give money to Alberta separatists, while they’re also running disinformation style campaigns and influence campaigns focused on disrupting and heightening instability in Canada: they control most of Canadas major media afterall. Musk is basically immune to accountability for his actions due to his relationship with the US administration and his giant pile of money: things that frankly, should make him a foreign agent of some sort, with far more scrutiny to his actions within Canada/impacting Canada. He practically runs an anti-Canada influence machine in X, and is openly manipulating things like Wikipedia (grokepedia) to align to the US Administrations distorted/fabricated world view. His status is similar to how Trump is immune to anything in the Epstein files, realistically, and he’s only fussed about it cause he’s a narcissist worrying about his legacy – not because he’s worried he’ll face any direct accountability for his past actions.

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          11 hours ago

          I agree but our criminal code is specific in that nobody can be convicted of an offense committed outside of Canada unless specifically stipulated by the law.

          So like we would have to amend our laws in the legislature to specifically allow for criminal convictions of the things Musk did.