People always go on about how the armed forces hate Trump. If that’s the case, how come they never balk at carrying out all those blatantly illegal orders?
Nah, back when I was Chair Force 20 years we were fed a constant stream of FOXNews in the common areas. I don’t imagine that’s change at all, so the rank and file are probably about as against him as the boomers. The hope was that the officer corps would resent his draft dodging stolen valor ass, but even that only lasts until the Pentagon gets purged.
My impression has always been that it’s a shitshow.
Military vertical culture is “fuck your opinion, do your job” or “failure to obey orders.” Refusing illegal orders is a theoretical training seminar that covers examples like sexual favors and cleaning out the bosses car.
Military horizontal culture is “I’m just here to do my job, eventually go to school” and “failure to report.”
There’s not really any room to hate Trump. I mean… go ahead, hate him… They have about the same regard for that as they would have for any conservative members hating Obama. They don’t want to hear it, unless it’s just you and your bud shooting shit on a long watch. You do your job, that’s it.
High-ranking members get disgruntled and choose to retire or whatever. That only weakens the reserve of people who aren’t just blindly following orders.
They aren’t taught to have opinions. They’re taught to stand at attention so that someone else can breathe down their neck and talk shit unrelentingly. They’re taught to breathe the farts in deep, until they start seeing the shenanigans as tough love.
I’m not denying that. In saying they’re not anywhere near as pissed as people make it out to be. It seems like a lot of people in the US armed forces are on board with the fascist takeover of their country.
Seems like you don’t understand how military training is. Boot camps purpose is to beat the critical thinking and individuality out of you. Officer school is all about how to control peons.
The military has a solution for this.
People always go on about how the armed forces hate Trump. If that’s the case, how come they never balk at carrying out all those blatantly illegal orders?
Nah, back when I was Chair Force 20 years we were fed a constant stream of FOXNews in the common areas. I don’t imagine that’s change at all, so the rank and file are probably about as against him as the boomers. The hope was that the officer corps would resent his draft dodging stolen valor ass, but even that only lasts until the Pentagon gets purged.
They do?
My impression has always been that some of the military hates him, but it’s a very small handful.
My impression has always been that it’s a shitshow.
There’s not really any room to hate Trump. I mean… go ahead, hate him… They have about the same regard for that as they would have for any conservative members hating Obama. They don’t want to hear it, unless it’s just you and your bud shooting shit on a long watch. You do your job, that’s it.
High-ranking members get disgruntled and choose to retire or whatever. That only weakens the reserve of people who aren’t just blindly following orders.
They aren’t taught to have opinions. They’re taught to stand at attention so that someone else can breathe down their neck and talk shit unrelentingly. They’re taught to breathe the farts in deep, until they start seeing the shenanigans as tough love.
I’ve been out long enough to not have a sense of the current vibe. I’m just pointing out that there’s a solution if they’re really that pissed.
I’m not denying that. In saying they’re not anywhere near as pissed as people make it out to be. It seems like a lot of people in the US armed forces are on board with the fascist takeover of their country.
Seems like you don’t understand how military training is. Boot camps purpose is to beat the critical thinking and individuality out of you. Officer school is all about how to control peons.
The system works as designed.