• hector@lemmy.today
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    1 month ago

    The establishment is trying to turn this into a russian thing, as that’s their go to move. But this was a mossad honeypot, clearly done in conjunction with the CIA, which is a great betrayal of their mission, an executable offense, of treason, or it’s facsimile, and carries a death sentence to hear the president talk about it.

    The CIA isn’t allowed to conduct operations in the country, allowing a foreign intelligence agency to accrue blackmail on politicians, and rich people, and the like, is a great betrayal, I don’t know why no one has even dug into this, who was in charge when all of this happened, who authorized this at the CIA? Why are they given a pass?

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      1 month ago

      Who was in charge? This starts back with the OSS and Donald Barr, spanning like more than a half dozen administrations.

    • DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com
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      1 month ago

      Didn’t Obama overturn a law that made it legal for propaganda to be done to Americans on American soil? Smith-Mundt act.

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        I don’t doubt it, I seem to recall vaguely something along those lines. They never followed those laws preventing domestic operations anyway.

        Also, they use the 5 eyes network as an end run around those, they spy on americans, or do operations, and put their allies letterhead on the operation, that then shares the information back with them. Even as it’s the us doing the entire thing itself. It’s a country run by lawyers, for billionaires.

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          And now it’s all funneled through Palantir and the various other tentacles of the private sector.

          The CIA/NSA are just retail customers of privatized surveillance.

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            And the courts have given them license to further ignore laws and protections from the government to have contractors do it for them, or use information the private sector was allowed to gather from us, and buy and use it, without warrants or judges or oversight of any kind.

            But it also gives these private companies way too much power, merging the private power and money with contacts to government, that make Thiel and his ilk way too powerful, now with all the data broker information plus every bit of data from every federal agency that doge exported to his banks secretly, don’t for a second think that’s not what this was all about.

            They caught them doing it in a couple of instances too, like at the labour department, no one is even trying to defend the country or it’s laws this time around everyone gave up in government and business. It’s only some of us citizens that are still trying to contest the republic being surrendered to the worst pieces of shit in the country.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Not really. They lifted the ban on the domestic dissemination of materials originating from the State Department.

        Other departments and external agencies were, and still are, able to target propaganda at US citizens.

    • redsand@infosec.pub
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      This has been going on since the 80s. The Franklin scandal was also CIA and it also went no where.