If they abandon AI usage, I’d consider buying from them. Unless they give AI up and get a team of great humans at the helm to develop. They can get fucked, and I will spend my money elsewhere.
Fuck generative shit, there will ways be real passionate people making games, artwork and music and i will buy from them, not the trash spat out by the automated vending machine.
Corporations are already trying and failing to do anything useful with gassed up LLMs, and I highly doubt that it will become useful in the next 5 to 10 years. However, what I do feel will happen is that all the hope posting and gaslighting by the shills, those who’s success rides on massive adoption will do their best to convince everyone to use the shit. Who knows how well that will actually turn out, it’s an open question at the moment. I hope all their efforts leads to failure, personally.
If gassed up LLMs do seep into the gaming industry to the point I can’t avoid it, then I just stop buying games. Spending money on slop isn’t ideal in my opinion. I have a backlog of games that haven’t been tainted by baby’s first lying software, so it isn’t a total loss. I got years of games to play before choosing another hobby altogether, I have adhered to some boycotts for a long amount of time in other areas. Having the will to research products and spend money only on those that don’t offend my sensibilities is natural to me.
I already won’t use Windows because Microslop chose to go hard in the LLM direction and look how well that is going for them. On top of it, I make use of open source software and support projects so that they can continue to thrive, avoiding anything that is stained with enshittification.
My concerns with gassed up LLMs that techbros call “AI” are numerous: Ecological effect, Quality of Media (games, art, movies, etc), how it affects the people who provide us with software and entertainment in general. Gassed up LLMs are being used as an excuse to lay off so many people in tech and gaming spaces. As corporations irresponsibly hired in a boom period and realized they’d have to pay people in so called lean times that aren’t actually lean. The myth of infinite growth has scrambled the brains of the C-Suite and distracted toddler investors, so the profits don’t look so good these days. As they are unwilling to cut off the CEOs who leech off a lot of corporate profits first, naturally the very people who make the stuff that enriches companies, execs, and shareholders…Are laid off first. Thrown into a rabid job market that is falling the fuck apart because rich fuckwits are creating a situation that serves to unilaterally fuck over those that don’t have a financial cushion to fall back on.
This will have a profound impact on the quality and selection of media…Humans are naturally creative, we’ve painted in caves and told stories for most of our life history. Storytelling and creativity is an intrinsic part of humanity, stories feel better when written by someone with that strong ability to tell a compelling tale! Gassed up LLMs mass produce sterile, meaningless slop comprised of stolen training data that doesn’t classify as art to me…Humans do to, but not on an industrial scale like an LLM can. Already, there are sites and instances even on the fediverse dedicated to sharing slop…It’s so bland. I can’t imagine staying interested in buying stories and art produced by slop generating LLMs. I’ll just write my own stuff…Learn how to draw things that exist in my head, that would be a better use of time and money. Creating feels so good, only a talentless techbro or hollow CEO would want to take that away from people to make a quick dollar.
LLMs in their current form use so much water and power, it’s honestly scare how they’ll have to rely on dirty forms of energy production just to keep up with escalating demand. That will have an impact on the local environment and marginalized communities initially and if enough of these irresponsible data centers are created…The scale of environmental and community impact is going to escalate.
We only have one home planet, imagine it being so sullied that human life can’t exist here anymore. To be honest, due to our current antics, I don’t even know if we’ll beat “The Great Filter” and become a sufficiently advanced civilization. We might destroy ourselves first, but at least nature would probably recover after we’re gone and our works eventually stop interfering with the ecosystem.
I don’t feel humanity should be concerned with AI as there is so much we don’t know about ourselves yet. We lack the sufficient understanding of neurology, why consciousness manifests, and how to create machinery that can actually mimic our brain structure. It would take so many generations of humanity, untold amounts of funding, multi-discipline research to produce a true AI. Techbros wanna shill now though, so we are stuck with gassed up LLMs that will probably cause society to collapse or the rich to finally get put to a French revolution style end (if disenfranchised people are feeling spicy enough).
Given the nature of most executives, rich fucks, I can’t see anything by dystopian coming from these chuckleheads. If you read their unfiltered and uncensored thoughts (often between the lines of their flowery words), how they see others, and notice their detachment for the everyday person. It’s pretty grim. Makes me wonder what you see.
No I don’t see dystopia at all; dystopia is what leads to destabilization and revolution; neither of those are good for profits.
Certainly it’s possible, but Im not going to pretend like I can accurately predict what the future holds.
What I’m not going to do is make up my mind that in the future this trend is incapable of producing new, fun, well made games. Certainly right now the human mind and our creativity is miles beyond AI, but I don’t think it’s impossible for AI to reach an equal level; and you better believe if it does it’s going to rocket passed us.
I would love to live in a world where I can just click a button and AI generates a new Skyrim, or a Witcher; although that’s probably very far out, if at all.
And I don’t see job loss from AI as an exetential threat. I think the current lay offs in MOST fields are a mistake and they’ll be rehired. Like everyone is already saying, currently AI is just another tool that can accelerate the game development process; and anything that accelerates that processes decreases the cost of production which in turn increased competition. And I think that’s always a good thing.
The entire energy and water issue you’re raising is absolutely a non-issue for me. The model T got 13 miles to the gallon when it released; had no catalitic converter and basically zero safety features. Yet it was still a net benefit to humanity and was just a stepping stone towards the growth of humanity.
Energy use is the hallmark of a modern society; there is absolutely no path towards advancing humanity without forever increases energy use. AI can use energy from renewable sources. Data centers need exactly zero water input if designed that way; and if their current water use is actually an issue then I’m fine with government regulating its consumption.
If they abandon AI usage, I’d consider buying from them. Unless they give AI up and get a team of great humans at the helm to develop. They can get fucked, and I will spend my money elsewhere.
Do you feel you stand a chance in that fight?
Once the technology is there, and competition embrasses it, very few companies will actually have the capability of resisting.
In about 5 years I feel you’re literally just not going to be able to buy new games, or you’re going to abandon the idea of such boycotts.
But im curious. Are you concerned about the loss of human jobs from a game quality perspective or a human well being perspective?
Fuck generative shit, there will ways be real passionate people making games, artwork and music and i will buy from them, not the trash spat out by the automated vending machine.
Interesting, but there’s a lot of presumptions in your post.
Corporations are already trying and failing to do anything useful with gassed up LLMs, and I highly doubt that it will become useful in the next 5 to 10 years. However, what I do feel will happen is that all the hope posting and gaslighting by the shills, those who’s success rides on massive adoption will do their best to convince everyone to use the shit. Who knows how well that will actually turn out, it’s an open question at the moment. I hope all their efforts leads to failure, personally.
If gassed up LLMs do seep into the gaming industry to the point I can’t avoid it, then I just stop buying games. Spending money on slop isn’t ideal in my opinion. I have a backlog of games that haven’t been tainted by baby’s first lying software, so it isn’t a total loss. I got years of games to play before choosing another hobby altogether, I have adhered to some boycotts for a long amount of time in other areas. Having the will to research products and spend money only on those that don’t offend my sensibilities is natural to me.
I already won’t use Windows because Microslop chose to go hard in the LLM direction and look how well that is going for them. On top of it, I make use of open source software and support projects so that they can continue to thrive, avoiding anything that is stained with enshittification.
My concerns with gassed up LLMs that techbros call “AI” are numerous: Ecological effect, Quality of Media (games, art, movies, etc), how it affects the people who provide us with software and entertainment in general. Gassed up LLMs are being used as an excuse to lay off so many people in tech and gaming spaces. As corporations irresponsibly hired in a boom period and realized they’d have to pay people in so called lean times that aren’t actually lean. The myth of infinite growth has scrambled the brains of the C-Suite and distracted toddler investors, so the profits don’t look so good these days. As they are unwilling to cut off the CEOs who leech off a lot of corporate profits first, naturally the very people who make the stuff that enriches companies, execs, and shareholders…Are laid off first. Thrown into a rabid job market that is falling the fuck apart because rich fuckwits are creating a situation that serves to unilaterally fuck over those that don’t have a financial cushion to fall back on.
This will have a profound impact on the quality and selection of media…Humans are naturally creative, we’ve painted in caves and told stories for most of our life history. Storytelling and creativity is an intrinsic part of humanity, stories feel better when written by someone with that strong ability to tell a compelling tale! Gassed up LLMs mass produce sterile, meaningless slop comprised of stolen training data that doesn’t classify as art to me…Humans do to, but not on an industrial scale like an LLM can. Already, there are sites and instances even on the fediverse dedicated to sharing slop…It’s so bland. I can’t imagine staying interested in buying stories and art produced by slop generating LLMs. I’ll just write my own stuff…Learn how to draw things that exist in my head, that would be a better use of time and money. Creating feels so good, only a talentless techbro or hollow CEO would want to take that away from people to make a quick dollar.
LLMs in their current form use so much water and power, it’s honestly scare how they’ll have to rely on dirty forms of energy production just to keep up with escalating demand. That will have an impact on the local environment and marginalized communities initially and if enough of these irresponsible data centers are created…The scale of environmental and community impact is going to escalate.
We only have one home planet, imagine it being so sullied that human life can’t exist here anymore. To be honest, due to our current antics, I don’t even know if we’ll beat “The Great Filter” and become a sufficiently advanced civilization. We might destroy ourselves first, but at least nature would probably recover after we’re gone and our works eventually stop interfering with the ecosystem.
I don’t feel humanity should be concerned with AI as there is so much we don’t know about ourselves yet. We lack the sufficient understanding of neurology, why consciousness manifests, and how to create machinery that can actually mimic our brain structure. It would take so many generations of humanity, untold amounts of funding, multi-discipline research to produce a true AI. Techbros wanna shill now though, so we are stuck with gassed up LLMs that will probably cause society to collapse or the rich to finally get put to a French revolution style end (if disenfranchised people are feeling spicy enough).
Hey everybody, new LostWanderer book just dropped.
No but really interesting take, rather dystopian, but interesting.
Given the nature of most executives, rich fucks, I can’t see anything by dystopian coming from these chuckleheads. If you read their unfiltered and uncensored thoughts (often between the lines of their flowery words), how they see others, and notice their detachment for the everyday person. It’s pretty grim. Makes me wonder what you see.
No I don’t see dystopia at all; dystopia is what leads to destabilization and revolution; neither of those are good for profits.
Certainly it’s possible, but Im not going to pretend like I can accurately predict what the future holds.
What I’m not going to do is make up my mind that in the future this trend is incapable of producing new, fun, well made games. Certainly right now the human mind and our creativity is miles beyond AI, but I don’t think it’s impossible for AI to reach an equal level; and you better believe if it does it’s going to rocket passed us.
I would love to live in a world where I can just click a button and AI generates a new Skyrim, or a Witcher; although that’s probably very far out, if at all.
And I don’t see job loss from AI as an exetential threat. I think the current lay offs in MOST fields are a mistake and they’ll be rehired. Like everyone is already saying, currently AI is just another tool that can accelerate the game development process; and anything that accelerates that processes decreases the cost of production which in turn increased competition. And I think that’s always a good thing.
The entire energy and water issue you’re raising is absolutely a non-issue for me. The model T got 13 miles to the gallon when it released; had no catalitic converter and basically zero safety features. Yet it was still a net benefit to humanity and was just a stepping stone towards the growth of humanity.
Energy use is the hallmark of a modern society; there is absolutely no path towards advancing humanity without forever increases energy use. AI can use energy from renewable sources. Data centers need exactly zero water input if designed that way; and if their current water use is actually an issue then I’m fine with government regulating its consumption.
That’s my book I guess.