For lack of a better term? I’m not sure what to call it. I started arguing with someone who was claiming you shouldn’t help people in public because it could get you into legal trouble. Without wanting to even get into the ethics of why you should help someone regardless, I brought up good Samaritan laws. This person brought up a guy in Illinois who was convicted as a sex offender for grabbing a girl by the arm and lecturing her for jumping in front of a car without looking both ways first. According to this person, holding someone underage, even for a moment, counts as imprisonment of a minor, and automatically gets you put on the sex offender registry for life.
Now, that seemed fishy, but plausible in an awful sort of way, so I did some digging. I found several sources that mentioned this story, and learned the alleged man’s name is Fitzroy Barnaby, the incident occurred in 2001, he was convicted in Cook County in 2003, and it’s a cautionary tale against being a good Samaritan (ugh). But I cannot find any court documents, nor can I find any original sources. Every source references a since-deleted article by the “Chicago Sun Times”, and Barnaby isn’t even listed on the Illinois sex offender registry. Was this whole story just made up? Or have records been sealed and scrubbed or something?
Dude.
It’s a story that basically says “nowadays women accuse you of rape for no reason so you should never help them”
The ones who wrote, believed and relayed this story are just sexual assaulters, nice guys and incels. Of course it’s fake.
It’s also beyond ‘good Samaritan’ due to the whole ‘pulled her towards his car’ aspect. It also reads as someone trying to discipline someone outside of their care. Imagine you’re a teen trying to jaywalk and this random guy turns his vehicle around, grabs you, and tries to drag you towards it.
It definitely gives of ‘I’m only on the sex offender list because I pissed in public’ vibes.
It used to be more common for people to discipline kids that aren’t theirs for something obviously wrong. It wouldn’t usually involve grabbing, unless it was to move them out of the way of a moving car like in the story. Now there is a lot more pressure on just the parents since it’s frowned upon to discipline others children. Whether or not this is better, idk
I was with you on this until that last part.
What are you talking about pissed in public?
It’s missing a word
“Was” pissed in public
Or
Was pissed off in public
Maybe it’s a California thing, but growing up there was a lot of back and forth about how you could get put on the sex offender list for urinating in public. That wasn’t the case. So if someone said that’s the reason they were on the list, it was never the full story.
To be clear, I’ve never done this, it was just some weird cultural zeitgeist when I was growing up.
My recollection was if it was on like school property or some place kids were likely to be. That would trigger some enhancement to the crime. I’ve never been in a position to need to know if that’s true or not.
I was told the same thing literally across the country from you a decade and a half back.