• homoludens@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    I learn a lot about him from the fact that he apologizes to his staff but not the victims.

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      2 days ago

      They weren’t victims. They were both adults. This is your standard billionaire affair as far as we know.

      • AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        pretty sure their talking about epstein survivors. I don’t think anyone outside of personal acquaintances really care about the affairs at this point.

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            does it matter? it’s pretty obvious everyone of a certain wealth knew exactly what epstein was up to. knowingly and intentionally having ties with someone like that is enough for the epstein victims to deserve more of an apology than his employees.

            • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
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              Their point probably is that Epstein had his hands in a lot more than just procuring underage girls. Not everyone was under 18, so the term “victim” is a lot more complicated when talking about legal adults consenting to things.

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                Very very disturbing how quick you are to say legally consenting adults when we’re talking about known sex traffickers.

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                  We don’t have information either way for every situation, and there’s a lot of the system we don’t have any info about.

                  Jizzy Lane was obviously part of this entire thing willingly, and there were plenty of staff seemingly not related to the illegality, some of whom reported it and others may not have had any idea.

                  Epstein had direct intelligence connections with both Israel and Russia according to various released documents. There are almost certainly women related to those intelligence services involved in all of this at some point.

                  Not everything related to Epstein is as simple as the armchair warriors online want to make it out to be.

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          1 day ago

          Considering one was a nuclear physicist and the other taught bridge, I think it’s safe to say they weren’t being trafficked.