Not quite true. 20-30 years ago would be better than now. Slightly worse medical science is offset by everything else being farther up the collapse timeline.
I get our argument but I don’t think it’s accurate to overlook how terrible things have gotten in the past few decades just by taking the longview.
You’re kidding yourself, things may have seemed better 20 years ago but the economy was being bolstered by sub prime mortgage nonsense, it collapsed 2 years later and we’ve not had good times since.
How about climate change? 20 years ago there was hope. You want to introduce a kid into a world that is ending? Tell them hey, we made this world for you. You’ll fight in the water wars of 2040?
You’re saying things were better 20 years ago because there was false hope? By that logic 2020 must’ve been the best year ever because CO2 emissions actually dropped.
It’ll collapse or it won’t collapse or we’ll do something different, same as we always have. Pining for a rose tinted snapshot of 20 years ago or 30 years ago won’t make things better. It’s the same bullshit nostalgia fetishism the far right have for the 50s or 60s or whatever. Some things are worse, a lot of things are a lot better. All we can really do is support those we can support and make things better where we can.
Not quite true. 20-30 years ago would be better than now. Slightly worse medical science is offset by everything else being farther up the collapse timeline.
I get our argument but I don’t think it’s accurate to overlook how terrible things have gotten in the past few decades just by taking the longview.
My support worker just got a new client and she said they bought their house for about 30k$ decades ago and are now sitting on millions.
Who the fuck can afford a house or kids or anything other than the bare minimum.
Costs keep going up, wages stay the same or often get smaller. What. The. Fuck.
I literally had to take a paycut to get hired by my former employer again.
Things are definitely not getting better than they were
They’re clearly getting better for your employer
Tell that to anyone currently living with AIDS.
You’re kidding yourself, things may have seemed better 20 years ago but the economy was being bolstered by sub prime mortgage nonsense, it collapsed 2 years later and we’ve not had good times since.
How about climate change? 20 years ago there was hope. You want to introduce a kid into a world that is ending? Tell them hey, we made this world for you. You’ll fight in the water wars of 2040?
You’re saying things were better 20 years ago because there was false hope? By that logic 2020 must’ve been the best year ever because CO2 emissions actually dropped.
And because we were 20 years further from the collapse.
It’ll collapse or it won’t collapse or we’ll do something different, same as we always have. Pining for a rose tinted snapshot of 20 years ago or 30 years ago won’t make things better. It’s the same bullshit nostalgia fetishism the far right have for the 50s or 60s or whatever. Some things are worse, a lot of things are a lot better. All we can really do is support those we can support and make things better where we can.
I’m not pining for anything, but being 20 years further from the end is objectively better.
It’s exactly the same.
US life expectancy has also gone down during that time.
Okay?
Twenty years ago, we invaded a country to steal it’s oil while dismantling the nascent EV/Solar industry to protect fossil fuels
We are here today precisely because things were worse twenty years ago