A sprawling Chinese influence operation — accidentally revealed by a Chinese law enforcement official’s use of ChatGPT — focused on intimidating Chinese dissidents abroad, including by impersonating US immigration officials, according to a new report from ChatGPT-maker OpenAI.
Are you people the must gullible people to exist? Open AI put this “report” out. Hmm, do you think there’s any motivation for them to show how useful their chatbot is? Especially regarding “national security”? Followed up by, no joke, a radio free asia source, known CIA mouthpiece. Reported on breathlessly by cnn.
OpenAI has identified that ChatGPT has being used from networks associated with CCP headquarters, and fabricates a plausible story for the press to show how useful their data can be for US military intelligence.
The timing of this news story is too good to not be an attempt to get hold one of those Pentagon contracts Anthropic has been offered (and might lose), with all means necessary.
Regardless of the actual truth, I am just curious about the overall optics of this. Why would OpenAI (implicitly) admit that they are spying on their users, and show that they are willing to share it with the press?
Most arguments for surveillance (and all authoritarianism) boil down to either saving the children or fighting an eternal enemy. Obviously OpenAI does surveil all its users, but the “for the children” argument would hurt their user numbers (I wanted to say it would hurt their profits, but they don’t profit off of any user). Thus, it’s “but China” instead.
No, I’m perfectly willing to accept information when the evidence provided suggests the conclusion.
But examining the conclusion and insinuations and then examining the claims and the sources with the knowledge of US actions and motivations, this is just garden variety lazy lies.
There isn’t any evidence that a Chinese official actually did this just claims from a chatgpt investigation.
The Pentagon is in a standoff with another prominent AI company, Anthropic, over the use of its AI model. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has given Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei a Friday deadline to comply with demands to peel back safeguards on its AI model or risk losing a lucrative Pentagon contract
Do you think that this paragraph from the article might be relevant to open AIs “report” (which is not released as part of this article)? Do you think there’s maybe a reason to be suspicious about their capability in reporting about “high level” Chinese administrators?
This is a high level conspiracy between multiple parties to make one Chinese official look dumb,
No it’s a standard propoganda run, run through the most standard propaganda mouthpiece (RFA) to spread propaganda about China? Are you being dense on purpose?
It’s just not believable that they’d be using chatgpt in government over the Chinese alternatives. I very much believe their probably are people using/abusing chatbots for dumb stuff. But this specific story given the details and time it’s “come to light” is just so obviously fabrication for altman to show what a good boy he is and pushing his bot for American defence contracts.
Your original comment was a clear badfaith strawman.
Okay, so you do believe it’s a conspiracy between multiple parties to manufacture a lie to get onto CNN. That’s just your position. No strawman needed.
I agree that Sam Altman is probably trying to deflect from all the (well-deserved) bad press he’s getting right now… but if he was going to make up a story, it should have been closer to when he got caught helping teens kill themselves.
Are you people the must gullible people to exist? Open AI put this “report” out. Hmm, do you think there’s any motivation for them to show how useful their chatbot is? Especially regarding “national security”? Followed up by, no joke, a radio free asia source, known CIA mouthpiece. Reported on breathlessly by cnn.
Like. This is the most obvious fiction.
It sounds like you’re demanding a level of proof that’s basically impossible to provide to you.
What do you think is more likely?
The timing of this news story is too good to not be an attempt to get hold one of those Pentagon contracts Anthropic has been offered (and might lose), with all means necessary.
Regardless of the actual truth, I am just curious about the overall optics of this. Why would OpenAI (implicitly) admit that they are spying on their users, and show that they are willing to share it with the press?
Most arguments for surveillance (and all authoritarianism) boil down to either saving the children or fighting an eternal enemy. Obviously OpenAI does surveil all its users, but the “for the children” argument would hurt their user numbers (I wanted to say it would hurt their profits, but they don’t profit off of any user). Thus, it’s “but China” instead.
No, I’m perfectly willing to accept information when the evidence provided suggests the conclusion.
But examining the conclusion and insinuations and then examining the claims and the sources with the knowledge of US actions and motivations, this is just garden variety lazy lies.
There isn’t any evidence that a Chinese official actually did this just claims from a chatgpt investigation.
The evidence provided does suggest the conclusion. You just apparently distrust the source along nationalist lines. Predictable but unfortunate.
The Pentagon is in a standoff with another prominent AI company, Anthropic, over the use of its AI model. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has given Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei a Friday deadline to comply with demands to peel back safeguards on its AI model or risk losing a lucrative Pentagon contract
Do you think that this paragraph from the article might be relevant to open AIs “report” (which is not released as part of this article)? Do you think there’s maybe a reason to be suspicious about their capability in reporting about “high level” Chinese administrators?
What evidence? It’s just a claim from a CEO with every incentive to lie.
Holy strawman.
No it’s a standard propoganda run, run through the most standard propaganda mouthpiece (RFA) to spread propaganda about China? Are you being dense on purpose?
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Tankie is when you’re Chinese apparently.
It’s just not believable that they’d be using chatgpt in government over the Chinese alternatives. I very much believe their probably are people using/abusing chatbots for dumb stuff. But this specific story given the details and time it’s “come to light” is just so obviously fabrication for altman to show what a good boy he is and pushing his bot for American defence contracts.
Your original comment was a clear badfaith strawman.
Okay, so you do believe it’s a conspiracy between multiple parties to manufacture a lie to get onto CNN. That’s just your position. No strawman needed.
I agree that Sam Altman is probably trying to deflect from all the (well-deserved) bad press he’s getting right now… but if he was going to make up a story, it should have been closer to when he got caught helping teens kill themselves.
You are continuing to just engage in bad faith. All the best.