In a rare public address, former president said US is experiencing ‘dark days’ and urged Americans to vote
Joe Biden has warned that his presidential successor, Donald Trump, will attempt to “steal” the midterm elections, in a rare public address.
Speaking in South Carolina, where he was being honored for his lifetime achievement in politics, Biden also asserted that the US is experiencing “dark days”, in a speech made hours before the Trump administration launched attacks on Iran.
Reprising a line from the 2020 campaign that saw him defeat Trump and end Trump’s first presidency, Biden told the crowd at the Columbia Museum of Art on Friday that the “battle for the soul of this nation is one that’s never really over”. He simultaneously criticized Trump’s plan to introduce potentially prohibitive voting requirements ahead of the midterms.
Do you really think allowing a president to execute their opposition will lead to anything good though?
No. But how about executing someone who weaponized a pandemic? Yes.
People are capable of understanding context. Not that you’re totally wrong, but Biden trying and executing Trump for treasonous crimes isn’t the same as Putin torturing and poisoning Navalny in a Siberian prison camp.
How much stuff have the republicans already blamed democrats for?
Do you think that the MAGA base wouldn’t execute Biden for his ‘crimes’ in Ukraine?
A lot. But they can literally never back up any of their claims.
Desire to? Yeah, I’d assume so. They tried to overthrow the government and murder Democratic leadership once already. Be capable of? No.
My prediction is that in much the same way Italy and Germany unified after the deaths of their respective far right leaders, America would eventually move on and become more unified as well. Maga is a cult of personality with Trump as the sole proprietor. When he goes, there’d likely be a power vacuum too big to fill and the cult fractures into multiple small factions that eventually lose popularity. Mayyybe one or two starts to gain traction, but they’re much easier to deal with than the inertia Maga has right now.
Seems like a pretty big bet to base on feelings.
You’re not wrong, but we don’t have the luxury of only making decisions based on rationality. Sometimes you need to trust your intuition and fix the repercussions of those decisions with more rationally sound decisions when/if they backfire.
Personally, I’d rather have dealt with the blowback of Donald Trump’s corpse rotting in a shallow grave than having to deal with where we’re at currently.
The guy led an insurrection against our own government. The evidence was overwhelming. We’ve executed people in this country for much, much less.
Over half the country didn’t think it was a big deal.
I’m not sure why people still think the guy who, a day before he was sworn in, said “He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So, it was pretty good, it was pretty good. So, thank you to Elon” legitimately won in a free and fair election.
Prove it in court and I’ll believe he stole the election.
When has proving in a courtroom that Trump did something unlawful ever actually mattered?
Because if it happened there is proof and I’d like to see it.
Why the fuck are you all over this thread running defense for child rapist/murder/eater donald trump?
It’s a sad state of affairs when people think that demanding proof of allegations before acting on them is running defense for people.
It’s literally the bedrock of our justice system.
considering trump has threatened to jail his oponenets, do you still think doing nothing was a good idea?
Sometimes it just feels like I’m bashing my head against a brick wall here.
“We tried nothing and were all out of ideas” is how it comes across.
Fuck this lousy Smarch weather.
And your statement comes across like you’re okay with the ruling party executing their opposition.
I’m not the one who called to execute. But I did call for biden to arrest him and throw the key away.
But the rest of the world saw y’all do nothing, and now how many people lost their lives in war. How many trans people have killed them selves since election day because of his party’s anti trans bullshit.
There is a real cost to the nothing that was done. And were all paying it. The rest of the world is sick of it.
Yeah but Kamala Harris was forced upon the Democrats as the party leader. She wasn’t elected democratically to lead the party. That’s even worse. /s
If he was arrested and put in jail and Americans voted him back in as they did he’d be free anyways.
And your right back to “we tried nothing and were all out of ideas”
We investigated him and it all went to hell when the majority of the country decided to vote him back into office.
This is a more complicated situation then you’re making out to be.
oh good, satansmaggottycumfart is here to derail the entire thread with his bullshit. I thought for a second that lemmy might actually have a political thread, but now its shut down.
Absolutely! These are unprecedented times, and they require unprecedented solutions. We need to do a LOT more than simply punish MAGA treason, corruption, and pedophilia. They need to be punished so harshly, it will be felt for generations, and future dipshits will be reminded of what happens when they get squirrelly.
Yeah, execute the tyrant and his henchmen, and put their heads on the White House fence. Let their followers know that we’re enthusiastically willing to go medieval on their asses. That will keep them under their slimy rocks for the next few decades.
You don’t think the republicans will put liberal/progressive politicians up there the next chance they get?
I feel like there’s a group of people on here who are trying to push us into a civil war that we can’t win and I for one am not going to take that bait.
Just to understand your perspective: is there anything a politician, either sitting or running, can do that would cause you to support jailing or executing them, or is the complication of them being a politician such that, in your eye, no penalty can be met for any crime they commit?
I’m arguing against Biden throwing Trump in jail or executing him not arguing against people or politicians facing legal consequences from the justice system.
Presumably because Trump is a politician? Or is it that you believe he committed no crimes?
Do you believe Biden should be judge, jury and executioner?
Absolutely not!
Maybe I understand your perspective better now? Is it that your opposition is to a president directly ordering someone be arrested/killed (vs directing the department of justice to administer a speedy and comprehensive trial in order to prevent a miscarriage of justice)?
Yes and also Trump was being investigated when he was elected and at that point they called it off until he’s a citizen again.
I don’t know if a speedy and comprehensive trail exists you get one or the other.
First of all, there are no Republicans any more, that was the larval stage, before they morphed into their final form, MAGA. The Republican Party is as dead as the Whigs, and should only be referred to in scholarly or historical context.
And once were done with this, there won’t be any MAGAs. MAGA is a National Security Threat, and it’s leaders and followers are Domestic Terrorists, among many other crimes. They will not be allowed to exist any more. Germany did it with the Nazis, and we can do it with MAGA.
The Democratic Party will be our Right Wing Party, and The Progressive Party will be the Left Wing Party.
Finally, we will NOT be punishing MAGA for their politics, we will punish them for their many CRIMES. In the future, any politician calling for the legal punishment of their enemies for their political beliefs should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted for treason.
MAGA is an Organized Criminal Enterprise, including organized child sex trafficking, and they cannot be allowed to influence our government and society any longer.
That shouldn’t take a Civil War, just a solid legal system, unless it takes a Civil War to install that legal system.
Would you rather live as a 13th Amendment Government-owned Slave under an Organized Crime government, or support a Civil War that makes America free again?
Neither and no matter how many charged words or phrases you put in your comments you’re not going to get me to start agreeing with you.
You’re talking about eighty million people in our country.