In a rare public address, former president said US is experiencing ‘dark days’ and urged Americans to vote

Joe Biden has warned that his presidential successor, Donald Trump, will attempt to “steal” the midterm elections, in a rare public address.

Speaking in South Carolina, where he was being honored for his lifetime achievement in politics, Biden also asserted that the US is experiencing “dark days”, in a speech made hours before the Trump administration launched attacks on Iran.

Reprising a line from the 2020 campaign that saw him defeat Trump and end Trump’s first presidency, Biden told the crowd at the Columbia Museum of Art on Friday that the “battle for the soul of this nation is one that’s never really over”. He simultaneously criticized Trump’s plan to introduce potentially prohibitive voting requirements ahead of the midterms.

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  • Aqarius@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    how much worse trump would be

    That’s, actually, an interesting question: Do, you, @CannonFodder@lemmy.world, whose third ever lemmy comment was on a post about the IDF hunting Palestinians down with drones and stated “Yes war sucks and they’ll use whatever nasty stuff they invent. Of course, Hamas could just surrender and release all the hostages.” really, think Trump is worse on Palestine than Biden?

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      I do, mostly because he’s so random, self centered and easily manipulated. Biden was still stuck in the ‘Isreal has a right to defend itself’ mode, which was true; but I do believe Biden or Harris would have pushed back significantly more than trump did when Israel kept escalating. Trump’s team never pushed back at all; trump openly fantasized about clearing out Gaza and putting up trump casinos ffs.
      And yes, Hamas brought all that shit down on the people of Gaza. Yes Israel took advantage of it and went way overboard, and maybe they would have found some other excuse to do it anyway. But Hamas started this escalation.

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        Israel is defending itself so hard, it’s crazy. Their ratio is like one defense missile straight into a refugee camp per day. It’s mostly civilians getting wiped but clearly, Hamas was asking for it.

        That’s what you mean, right?

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          Are you capable of understanding nuance and how situations change over time? Or is this a hopeless conversation?

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            I understand nuance and I understand what you are trying to slip in as well. You are justifying genocide. It doesn’t matter who started it when Israel escalated it to killing, starving and displacing an entire population. It was never even close to self defense.

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              Wrong. I never would justify genocide. I agree 100% that Isreal has escalated this way beyond anything that could be justified as self defense. And they are 100% responsible for their actions. That doesn’t change the fact that Hamas triggered it and gave them cover to start by committing the Oct attacks, which, while pale in comparison to Israel’s subsequent violence against the people of Gaza, were also reprehensible.
              More important to this discussion is the timeline. When Biden was in a position to support Israel, Israel was nominally still targeting Hamas resources, albeit with not enough care about civilian casualties. Hamas was still firing many rockets daily at Israel which was using very expensive defense tech to mostly thwart. Once Biden was a lame duck, and trump signaled encouragement for Isreal to go full genocidal, things got a lot worse. We don’t know what Harris would have done, or how Isreal would have responded to a democrat win, but it simply couldn’t have been worse than trump. And probably considerably less terrible.