The users aren’t the customers. The customers are the users’ bosses.
I was gonna use teams for a few groups of people, but fuck this noise. What are the best alternatives? Something like slack or discord but those have their issues too
There are tons of alternatives. As for how good they are I have no idea. It feels like every other day a new discord alternative is highlighted here. But as of now I don’t believe there’s any drop in replacement for discord/teams, but that is not to say you shouldn’t seek out something that is good enough.
This is illegal in Norway :)
Teams can be worse?
You’re doubting Microsoft’s ability to make a product worse?
No, they have shown again and again, that they are capable of the impossible, if it comes to making things worse.
But still, we are talking Teams.
“Scientist invents new, even smellier, dog poo.”
There have been teams at Microsoft making everything worse since 1998. Why is this news?
Productivity boosters and surveillance go hand in hand.
“Tenant admins will decide whether to enable it and require end-users to opt-in.”
If you require someone to opt-in, they’re no longer “opting in”
But you clicked the terms and conditions popup, so you are our slave now.
So glad I only use Teams in a browser, fuck this bullshit.
Don’t install Teams.
You can’t even install it on Linux, they killed the native app years ago and now tell you to use the browser version
And then every link asks if you want to open in app, three extra clicks but worth it
Teams comes pre installed with windows these days.
I recommend KDE Plasma on any linux distribution that comes with it for people interested in recovering their digital sovereignty.
There is a difference betwen the version for corporate (MS365 Business) and the consumer version.
Yes, they have the same name.
Yes, it’s confusing.If people moved to Linux and used FOSS software, these privacy violations wouldn’t even be a problem.
Most people who use teams do so on work devices, I can’t just install Linux on it.
I cant even delete a shortcut on my work microslop machine
Yeah, of course.
If people moved to Linux
When users connect to their organization’s WiFi…
You think my employer would let me use Linux? Creeping on employees is how management feels important.
I wouldn’t use Teams personally unless under extreme duress. Unfortunately professionally it is the norm.
Disable your laptop webcam and microphone, use headset instead. I’ll be looking to see if I can switch to Teams web.
I remember how a subcontractor’s company called me with a lot of private information I assume the subcontractor had spoken to them about. The subcontractor had no clue about it, which completely changed how I had been perceiving the situation. The problem is companies are using the excuse of keeping tabs on their workers to perform outright continuous surveillance on them and try to see how they can exploit any and all information they can salvage for their benefit, which becomes a problem when there is no clear division between personal and professional space.
I’m starting to feel like everything I do at work is under duress.
I’m glad my work PC only operates in flight mode.
This is what I gathered on the subject, feel free to correct if anything is wrong:
The WiFi tracking works by scanning for nearby WiFi networks, identifying which routers are nearby and their signal strengths, matching those against their database of known WiFi access points, and using that data to estimate your location.
For now the feature will be off by default, first has to be enabled by your company, and then the user has to opt in for it to be used.
For those who are required to use Microsoft products, it can by bypassed by using a wired Ethernet connection and not using Teams on any devices using a wireless connection.
So basically the same every Android phone does. Google had done this kind of tracking since 2007
same go for the web browser based teams, or is this just the “app”?
The browser version shouldn’t be able to access this info.
Until Edge updates and silently turns it on
Unlikely, browser vendors are very careful adding such APIs, and MS doesn’t have the pull Google does.
A simple fix is, of course, not to use Edge.
Only one team working to make Teams worse???
They have achieved higher productivity by not using teams themselves.
You’ve got it reversed. Switching to Teams greatly hastened development, as the team’s newfound vitriol and frustration could be channeled toward the end user in a neverending feedback loop.
Literally! They were told to return to office to achieve higher productivity (it was circling the news around September?)
It was obviously just a corpo stealth layoff but imagine being told as a Teams developer that Teams is not good enough for remote work
Just one team working on Teams, and they are doing their best to make it worse.
I for one encourage them, it apparently needs to be even worse before my work will consider changing
They’re asking Copilot for help, so have achieved 10x productivity.
yaeh… team Microslop…
Having Teams remind you that, during session recordings, your video and what you say can be used by Microsoft for what purpose they want, including (but not limited to) training AI.
This wasn’t the line that was crossed? Seeing/hearing your likeness in the next generated AI / copilot commercial, because you needed to consent in order to work. This is “fine” /s
… but having Microsoft know that you’re answering Teams messages while on the toilet… yeah, that’s where “the line gets crossed” (eyeroll)
We need to wake-up and drop this technological cancer.
“It’s okay, because it’s Microsoft” is management’s response when I raise a concern at work.
Heaven forbid you use an open source tool that isn’t on the software whitelist yet
“It’s okay, because it’s Microsoft”
“You mean the mass surveillance corporation under the control of the nazis?”
Of course there is, this guy leads it
So many other apps do this already, including the OS. This is changing your Teams status for you, so coworkers can see if you’re in the office or not.
If your hybrid wfh office has any sort of reservation system then this is likely already happening.
They are called stakeholders.
Honestly, I would screen potential employers by whether they are a Microsoft shop or not. Fuck ‘em.
nice to have that sort of freedom, since the majority of companies use some Microsoft products
i thought the same, but now working at a place using google/slack isn’t much better.
