• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    We’ve had of ecocomic warfare already. It was just fine for US companies to hollow out domestic manufacturing so China could build the manufacturing infrastructure that could have been built in the US.

    But now that a Chinese company is building things that undercut a US company, you want protections for US billionaires that weren’t afforded to US workers.

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      14 hours ago

      Are you ignoring the whole subsidies thing on purpose? This is not BYD attacking Tesla. This is the Chinese government attacking western industries.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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        11 hours ago

        USA subsidized Detroit $80B since 2008, and that’s ignoring state graft for building assembly plants. What the fuck did they do with that money, attack Eastern industries?

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          9 hours ago

          Well, it was $79.7B to be exact. And what the US government did with that was not cut checks, but rather, purchased stock in the companies.

          When it sold the stock it bought from manufacturers, it sold for around $70B. When they sold the approximately $2.4B invested into Ally (an auto financing firm), it sold for $17.2B.

          So the money spent in 2008 actually made a profit. It was not distributed to the manufacturers or finance companies at all. Just used to shore up their value to prevent them from going out of business – and more importantly, probably, make sure investors didn’t lose money, or at least not too much.

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            36 minutes ago

            When you take into account inflation and the overall market gains over that time, they absolutely did not make their money back.

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            7 hours ago

            Well, it was $79.7B to be exact.

            oh, touche! but that was only after 2008, and not including previous bailouts to Ford. Then, every state, everywhere is paying to either get or keep assembly plants but that does not factor into your selective math.

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        14 hours ago

        This is BYD selling cars for kess than the billionaires you care about want to.

        Nothing more.

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        14 hours ago

        If the Chinese government is losing money on each car they export, soon China will be bankrupt. It only makes sense to buy more China cars at cheap rates and bankrupt their country.

        Also, there is no proof of subsidy, it’s just made up Western cope.

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          11 hours ago

          The US government has been propping up Detroit for over 20 years with over $100B in subsidies and tax relief, plus every state government grafts to get a new assembly plant.

          BMW is not in South Carolina for the quality of workers.