• Zos_Kia@jlai.lu
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    24 hours ago

    Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(

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      15 hours ago

      Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(

      bwahahaha you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?

      ah jeeze that’s sad for you

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        14 hours ago

        you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?

        No, i’m saying 90% of intellectual discourse is at least influenced by religion because it comes from people who are religious. Atheism being significant is a very modern phenomenon so if you’re going to study anything in history, philosophy, art or science, it’s gonna be full of religious people acting out their religious beliefs.

        Even today something like 4 out of 5 people are religious, and most atheists are influenced by that common culture in some way. Dismissing the whole cultural reservoir as fairy tale is a terrible footgun, it can only make everything confusing. Everybody else is pulling from it and you refuse to even acknowledge it, that’s not gonna work.

        You’re going to read poetry but it will make no sense and the climax won’t land because you can’t empathize with the religious sentiment. You’re going to read greek philosophy but it will feel drawn out and theoretical because you can’t empathize with the religious imperatives of the author. And i say this as a strict agnostic, i’m really not the kind of guy you’ll find in a church. But you can’t get to the meat of most intellectual discourse if you dismiss religion, just like you can’t get to the meat of most physics if you dismiss math.

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          13 hours ago

          No, i’m saying 90% of intellectual discourse is at least influenced by religion because it comes from people who are religious

          why not suggest that all of intellectual discourse is influenced by primatism because it comes from people who are primates?

          what a goofy argument.

          and the idea that you posit atheists can’t enjoy poetry because the poetry relies on religious appreciation is hideous.

          you religious nutbags will attempt to co-opt anything. it’s fucking gross. stop calling yourself an agnostic if you spout this shit, it’s like a nazi saying they’re strict socialists.

          But you can’t get to the meat of most intellectual discourse if you dismiss religion, just like you can’t get to the meat of most physics if you dismiss math.

          ridiculous.