• hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    That’s his point. It’s similar to framework, but not the same.

    Easy repairability is great, truly.

    But framework offers more than that, easy repairability AND upgradability, because they offer new upgraded parts with the same compatibility as the old ones, so you can just drop them in.

    Lenovo is not yet doing that. Which is fine. Just a noteworthy difference.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 hours ago

      While easy to repair, how does durability compare so you don’t need to repair it in the first place?

      While not bad like an HP consumer grade laptop, I have not heard good things about the rigidity of the frameworks. All the modularity takes away space for reinforcement and leaves more points for things to break.

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        1 hour ago

        The modularity might be considered almost a gimmick of recessed USB-C accessories, so I would personally be happy with a device that leaves that outside the core chassis, so long as the chassis ports are at least as modular as this ThinkPad concept. No idea if those big empty areas are a serious liability structurally or not…

        Even among shitty laptops, it’s always been keyboard, screen, or charging port as the things that break, not sure structural support matters too much on those fronts. I have had boards fail, but not do to physical events.

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      4 hours ago

      I would be curious to see how often people actually upgrade their frameworks.

      I agree with their repair stance. It just feels like one of those things people will tell you they want and then never do.

      Still maybe the explosion in memory prices will change the incentives and people will start holding things longer. It will be interesting to see.

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        2 hours ago

        I would be curious to see how often people actually upgrade their frameworks.

        For me, I’ve upgraded my mainboard to a newer CPU generation for better integrated graphics (old one is in a case as a home server) and I upgraded to their matte screen when they released those.

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        3 hours ago

        It is a bigger deal in business settings, where one laptop can see multiple hands and you’ve got a team dedicated to repair.

        Not typically an issue for the individual user, but always an issue for a team of users.