• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Yeah, but it feels like we have to work against our own side for that to happen. Because at best a liberal man can do is be ‘one of the good ones’ and that shit is pretty is isoating when all gender discussion is focused on the worst of men.

    Boys are effectively told they can only be monsters by both sides. Not a day goes by there is another study about how awful men are. Or some influencer tells them it’s okay to be a monster.

    And that is it. No other message.

    And I keep hearing about the need of a ‘liberal Joe Rogan’. But I can think of a few people who might fit that mold, but no one actually wants to talk about them. But we sure give Tate a lot of attention.

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      3 days ago

      Yeah I don’t even know how we would go forward on that front. I’m pretty traditionalist amongst my kin but the problem is that still puts me as a progressive in larger society since it aligns me with union men, anti-authoritarians, and anit-assimilationists which is to say I’m a stereotype for pre-ww2 American Scots who somehow exists in the modern period.

      Personally I do think there may be a way forward with that though I’m a tad bit tired typing this out since it’s 3 in the morning but still. Basically use traditional aesthetics to push progressive causes, sorta a shieldmadens, beer, and unions type of thing IDK. My brain is currently poisoned by my current EUV Frisia run so all I can think of is spamming privateers everywhere.

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          2 days ago

          They’re only tainted so far as you let them be tainted. Purify them with the blood of fascists if that’s what it takes, hell the skull and crossbones has been used by pirates, Prussians, anarchists, and Nazis. Maybe it could be stylized a bit differently, let ones own culture reshape it while keeping the core.