Since I bought mine for about 230 bucks Canadian, it’s been my main device charger and it can serve as a UPS.

I decided to buy it after we had a bunch of power outages within a short time span.

It has a 288Wh battery, with an inverter that can deliver 600 Watts of power.

It’s mainly used to keep my headphones, Google Pixel and iPad charged up however it can run my PC for a solid 2-3 hours before running out of power.

What do you think about power stations?

  • fubarx@lemmy.world
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    Part of disaster-planning is to figure out the blast radius. If it’s just your house, or a small brownout, then something like this would work. As long as you plug your router so wifi can keep running, or maybe you can tether to a cell.

    If it’s a neighborhood-wide outage, chances are internet is down and possibly nearby cell towers. Most of them are suposed to have battery backup.

    We once had a six day outage and it turned out the cell towers ran out of power after a few hours. Phone companies brought in diesel generators just to keep emergency phone lines open (with degraded data). All the food in the fridges had to be thrown out after day 3.

    It was right after that when a lot of people went and bought gas-powered generators as home backups. Many signed up for satellite data. Those who could afford it got solar panels and home-size batteries.

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      Pretty sure I could eat and drink everything in my fridge in less than 3 days in an emergency. Plus a lot of things would last longer than 3 days, only real concern I can think of that most people have would be meat and some dairy, even cheese would last longer.

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    It doesnt look/sound like you are using solar panels with it, but thats like half the reason to buy one of these. Currently you are just slowly degrading the battery for no reason lol.

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      I do have a foldable 100W solar panel for it. Unfortunately the battery degradation is real. On one hand, having your computer on backup is nice, but that battery will remain plugged in and full 24/7 which will degrade it with time.

      I’m on the fence about using it as a UPS long term for this reason.

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    Beware of flaming hazards if it contains lithium battery cells though. I think the main advice from fire fighters is to not keep it close to the only exit out of the room it’s in. And away from flammable materials if possible.

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        They’re less flammable than the lithium polymer ones but there is still a risk of thermal runaway where hot toxic gaz can escape and start a fire in the vicinity.

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    I have been curious about them combined with solar panels but every product I have seen so far doesn’t seem to be overly practical, with a pay back period significantly longer than the warranty period even if you get perfect solar.

    For off grid power, sure totally understand that. I already use USB powerbanks for when away from mains power and if I needed longer durations then adding a solar panel makes perfect sense at some point rather than just a larger battery. But for home? I can’t really see the point currently until prices drop, capacities increase or warranties extend.

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    They have their place and I generally like the concept, however, not crazy about most implementations.

    I don’t like the fact that the batteries are not replaceable in most of them and the ones that do have replaceable batteries (Ryobi and Ego come to mind) are generally prohibitively expensive per kwh and usually can’t be used as a UPS like some of the integrated models.

    I don’t insist that the batteries be hot swappable like the Ryobi model I have, but there is no reason to toss all that extra plastic and circuitry when the battery itself eventually fails.

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    Solar panel and battery tech are finally mature enough to keep small electronics powered off grid near indefinitely now if you take the time to understand its capacity and build properly.

    If your system is too small you might run into problems cooking, charging a car, gaming, or running an ac, basically things that draw huge amounts of power, but it can run a freezer, phone and laptop, and led lights pretty well. And those things can get you 75 percent of the way to feeling civilized if weather or disaster affects your neighborhood power.

    So I’m a fan of this stuff, we are nearly in sci-fi territory with it, and think smart people with a backyard and some space should consider it for storm preparedness and the like. The tech will only improve with time, there’s some recent developments with new battery tech on the horizon that are hopeful.

    When I’m elderly in 40 years, I hope to live in a home with plenty of solar and a huge house battery setup in the basement. If I can cover all my electric off grid including cooking, I would feel very rich and secure.

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    One thing I can add, don’t let batteries completely die. If you leave them for a long time, the BMS which controls the battery loses power, and if that happens, many kinds of batteries and power stations become bricks that you cannot charge. You gotta take it apart and slowly charge and balance the cells to recover it.

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    They have their place.

    You pay a premium for how much power you get, but it comes in a convenient package.

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    I have an Anker Solix 2kwh unit backing up my sump pumps. I’m looking to expand it.

    In the next 5 years my plan is to add solar to my home with at least 10kwh of battery storage, or more if I can afford it.

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    The battery degradation is overblown with lithium iron phosphate batteries, which is what is in the Bluetti Elite 30. If you aren’t putting it through deep discharge (greater than 80%) or high temperatures (above 30°C) it should still work well for a long time. The higher your draw on it, pushing up to that 600W limit, the worse the impact is too.

    That said, it can work very well as a UPS for a freezer like what I have mine for, and adding a solar panel extends the usefulness of it a lot. I have a 200W panel which gives around 130-170W at any given time through the day, leading to a full charge in theory in about 2 hours. My freezer pulls around 60-80W with transient spikes to 700W when starting the compressor, but the power station can boost to cover that need for a short time. Over a day I use about 550Wh per day, so about 4 hours of sun per day in theory. It should be covered by the panel I have but the capacity is a little low so I can’t get through the night at this point, it has to switch over to AC after a while. Still, during the hottest hours where I need the most power I am getting solar to do it, so that’s handy.

    Anyway, yes, they are useful, another more powerful system is definitely in the cards for me, but they are a great first step and handy as a backup for bad weather.

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    Last fall I bought a 1 KWh Anker power station, and I’m loving it. It charges from 800 watts of solar and powers all kinds of random stuff around the house each day. Useful for power outages, too.