• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    15 hours ago

    While that is absolutely the case, the problem they have here is that they don’t control escalatory dominance. Typically, the US can dial things up or down as convenient, and if things get too spicy they can leave without any consequence. But here, Iran controls a choke point of the global economy, and leaving would have disastrous geopolitical consequences for the US. If they’re forced to abandon all their vassals in the Gulf, then their image as a world power collapses overnight. How can Europe, occupied Korea, or Japan credibly think that the US will defend them at that point?

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      6 hours ago

      How can Europe, occupied Korea, or Japan credibly think that the US will defend them at that point?

      It’s disturbing if they currently think US will defend them, when all defenses are moved to Israel today, and Trump shifts from “not our problem, we should leave” and “permanent global economy destruction”, and delaying “permanent global destruction” while Israel pursues it anyway. Furthermore, pursuing the Israel genocide expansion plan makes US angry at low enthusiasm level of its colonies to join, and promises “bad future” for its allies.

      If they’re forced to abandon all their vassals in the Gulf, then their image as a world power collapses overnight.

      That is most likely outcome. Of the $200B funding request bill, as much as $50B is expected as earmark to allies reparations other than Israel. Unclear that congress will go along with any funds for them.

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        4 hours ago

        Right, I really can’t see how the US can win this war or even exit it with any sort of dignity. It’s a massive geopolitical humiliation.

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      6 hours ago

      If they’re forced to abandon all their vassals in the Gulf, then their image as a world power collapses overnight.

      As opposed to staying and their image being more like the loooooong, slow decomposition of an embalmed corpse? Like it’s still going to happen, it’s just taking too 🤬 long?

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          4 hours ago

          Painful as it may be for underdeveloped egos, GTFO NOW and start making reparations seems the best option, but I’m an internet rando, so there’s that

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              3 hours ago

              Well, even the best developed egos don’t often like humble pie. And I don’t think Trump’s handlers really care much about results, as long as they’re making money. I imagine they imagine money makes humble pie taste really good, until they’re the pie filling.

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                3 hours ago

                It’s always possible that these people will find ways to profit from the crisis, and they genuinely don’t care even if the US geopolitical position collapses, and US economy crashes.