• Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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    22 hours ago

    I feel like planning is less the problem moreso the length. A day is basically nothing. We’d have to go back to Covid length shutdowns for even the smallest impacts to happen.

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      12 hours ago

      It demonstrates proof of concept, knocks the owner-caste off balance, and encourages future action. It’s not a wasted effort. It’s strategic.

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      19 hours ago

      Organized resistance is a muscle. The reason you see so much shit like this in France is because they exercise theirs regularly. The US does not. You can’t go from years of a desk job straight to running a marathon. You need to build up. Get people used to doing this stuff.

      No Kings started by getting people to show up to protests. Lots of people. More than ever before in US history in fact. Now they’re just asking those people to go one step further. You manage a one day general strike, maybe you can do two. If you can do two, maybe four. If four, maybe a week. Build those muscles. Build people’s confidence. Build the movement.

      This is what resistance looks like. It’s not some happy little fantasy where everyone just spontaneously rises up and removes all the bad people from power. It’s not Hollywood. It’s slow, and it’s hard work, but it’s real.

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      22 hours ago

      This is one of the biggest problems with a general strike these days. The wealth inequality between them and us is such that even a year long strike will only ruin most of us, meanwhile they’ll get a government bailout even though they never missed a payment on their yacht. You might be able to destroy a MAGA supporting small business, but you’ll wreck yourself and your like-minded neighborhood small businesses along the way. I don’t have a solid solution, just throwing this out as food for thought.

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        14 hours ago

        My solution would be a mix a ethanol and Styrofoam in a glass bottle, applied to any business that you think should be participating in the strike.

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          That’s cool as long as you make sure you’ve cleared the building of any non-human persons prior. Start lighting up pets or livestock willy-nilly and I’ll give you a taste of your own medicine, personally. ✊🐾

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          12 hours ago

          Whatever you do, just don’t draw any association between your kristallnacht and the movement, because it doesn’t need that baggage.

          Its strength is in widespread public support, and all you would accomplish is taking the wind out of its sails.

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        22 hours ago

        Thing is there are no like-minded small businesses around me. Pretty much all of them either openly support Trump or try to hide their beliefs until you walk in when the right customer is chatting up the manager. If they all went down, I wouldn’t shed a single tear.

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          Well you’ll still need to organize mutual aid networks and logistical infrastructure to produce and distribute food year-round, every single day. Because if all the grocery stores shut their doors and all the shelves are bare, what are people going to eat?

          That’s not so easy, is it?

          What do you do when the majority of farmers in the US are trump supporters and corporate conglomerates who won’t donate crops even when they have a surplus that they can’t sell?

          Even if you have the crops, how do you process them and package them large-scale without industrial facilities and labor? How do you transport them without vehicles, fuel, and drivers/conductors?

          In order for the movement to achieve a complete and total success, without resulting in a complete and total disaster, you need to have these details hashed out. And that means getting everybody onboard: the farmers, the millers, the packers, the drivers and the conductors, the warehouse operators, the grocers, and the clerks.

          And that’s just for food. What about medicine? What about education? What about mechanics, manufacturers, tech support, social work? It all needs to be in place, and that means everybody needs to be onboard. Without that, you have an immanent failure.

          Small steps build the momentum. Every step in the right direction is a net positive.

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            11 hours ago

            The hell does this have to do with small businesses run by MAGAts in my area of Missouri?

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              10 hours ago

              Are your grocery stores run by maga small business owners, or by corpos?

              Either way, if you want to run them out of business, something needs to replace them.

              If you can’t see the connection, then you’re too shortsighted and ignorant to be allowed anywhere near the decision-making levels of any movement underway.

              I’m not signing up for anything you’re promoting, if you’re that hostile towards the mere suggestion that we need to exercise foresight and think about what comes next.