• EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml
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    21 hours ago

    collective action in a year or two.

    By the time that happens democrats will be back in control and liberals can go back to ignoring the fascism that keeps building

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      12 hours ago

      So what’s your plan? Do nothing? Okay, then stop being a scab and go complain about it on .ml where the adults in the room don’t have to listen to your brainrot.

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        9 hours ago

        Liberals love to infantilize, your plan is doing nothing. If civil rights activists in the 60s took the same approach we wouldnt have civil rights laws yet. But instead of listening to people that have experience in organizing and protest liberals would rather listen to the people neutering their power.

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      21 hours ago

      Counting on politicians to fix this, regardless of party is an exercise in futility. We need to be building community organizations whether it’s Trump in power, Kamala, or Bernie. The Dems can’t fix this, the best you can expect from them is the bleeding slows down. We won’t get something better until we build it ourselves, with or without liberal permission or approval.

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      This is the big one. It wouldn’t surprise me if a majority of these people are only upset cause Trump is the one doing this shit. If Kamala had won, they couldn’t care less that we’d still be murdering people overseas, deporting innocent people, and sending weapons to Israel. Where were these parades when Biden was doing this shit? Best you had was colleges attacking students who said anything and Biden siding with the colleges while all the shitlibs agreed with him and wanted another president just like him.

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        Stop pretending things would be just as bad under Kamala Harris, or that things were just as bad under Biden.

        Were either of them perfect? No, of course not, and no one here is arguing that they were. But to pretend they’re just as bad as trump is as asinine as it is destructive.

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          9 hours ago

          They would be just as bad but you would be ignoring it because the blue fascists would be the ones in control

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          It’s the only way to wake libshits up to how awful these fucks have destroyed everything for decades. Every single time a Dem takes office, all these people just shut down and ignore everything until they lose the next election. Until we start seeing this pressure applied to them also, I’m gonna keep calling people out on their BS.

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            11 hours ago

            Nobody is “waking up” because of your hyperboles mistakenly equating Biden and Harris to trump. The only thing you’re making anyone do is roll their eyes at you and stop listening.

            There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to make about the DNC establishment. Now is the time to do it, with primaries around the corner, if you’re willing to engage productively.

            But saying they’re just as bad as the RNC is not it. It’s not a productive conversation, and it sets us back more than you realize.

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              10 hours ago

              The primaries will never offer any actual leftists, especially in the DNC since they already made it clear they won’t allow fair primaries. The only way to get leftists in power is to support third parties, but too many morons but into the mindset of that not working so they refuse to even try just like they do with violent actions of protest. Too many want to keep a look of peace and decorum which doesn’t allow for actual change. The second you bring up damaging anything even a little, they push back and shove you out.