The mayor was inside the residence at the time, the police department said later Saturday
The NYPD’s Bomb Squad confirmed that the devices thrown in the direction of New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s home were both viable IEDs.
The incident is now under investigation by both the NYPD and the FBI. In total, two devices were thrown during the protests on Saturday afternoon on Manhattan’s swanky Upper East Side.
On Sunday, police spokesperson Jessica Tisch said that the “preliminary analysis of a device that was ignited and deployed at a protest yesterday has determined that it is not a hoax device or a smoke bomb.”
“It is, in fact, an improvised explosive device that could have caused serious injury or death,” Tisch added.
Oh no, the Nazis will get violent! Oh wait, they already are? And have the state supporting and performing their violence? Oh…
You’re conflating state sponsored violence with random Nazi supporters joking them as private malitia.
Absolutely violence should not be avoided where violence is already being used. However, by all account these nazis were protestors, not the agents of the government.
Nazis are still people and there is still a spectrum of violence and beliefs. In the Nazi bar analogy, they all end up being nazis by virtue of association and tolerance of Nazi views. You’re making the leap to all being Nazis immediately.
Non violent far right protestors have the right to protest and their beliefs. Where they have already perpetrated violence, they should receive it in kind or, ideally prosecution.
The use of IED is not that and just normalises it’s use. Which side has the bigger propensity for violence and bombing of unarmed civilians?
The Dems and the left have a problem where they tut tut and pearl clutch rather than taking action. Jumping to bombing protests is not the answer, however distasteful those protests are.
I’m sorry, with dealing with Nazis under a Nazi regime, I fail to see a difference between them being of the state or not.
That’s my point. When you lose your humanity, you are no better. The whole point of fascism is to ‘other’ different in and out groups. Exactly what you’re doing, to the point where you think terrorism is ok.
Except the “other” in this case are fucking Nazis. Fuck off with this tolerance bullshit.
Alright, let me say this then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_attack
They’re ALREADY violent before anything was done to them. You can’t handle them with kid gloves. And not seeing a difference between them being of the government and not isn’t dehumanization. It’s acknowledging that the government will protect the when they do awful stuff because the government wants it done.
Now dehumanizing would be saying they’re cockroaches, that they’re not people, by what THEY say of US and all out groups. I have not said that. But if you believe the moral high road is how you’ll win, you’ve not been paying attention for the past 30 decades.
And this is why “centrists” let Nazis takeover.
Firstly I’m not a centrist. My beliefs lie firmly on the left.
Secondly, you’re not addressing my points.
It’s easy to be edgy and support terrorism from behind a keyboard. The reality of living under terrorism threats from either side is no better than fascism. See northern Ireland, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Nigeria. The only one I’d like to live in is northern Ireland, where the threat of terrorism has subsided due to treating each side as people and ending terrorism.
The only way nazism grows is by treating people like they are not people. This is why nazis take over.
Nazis take over because people are mean to then is a fucking wild ass take holy shit.
Tender footed leftists not realizing you have to protect tolerance from the intolerant.
Who won again in that situation and why?
Northern Ireland? Nobody. And tensions remain today but people can love normal loves without oppression.
Or you mean Palestine? Terrorist attacks on either side didn’t help either. Eventually it lead to genocide.
Jurisdictionally it’s Britain, not Ireland. You’d need a passport generally to move between them. The Nazis won in that, so to speak. We’re all tired, and maybe people need to see these things to be a bit more brave. No one is coming to save us.